• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    There’s so much crossover with the Zionist hasbara and nafo Ukraine propaganda, I gotta wonder if y’all work out if the same computer farms.

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      3 days ago

      Project much? Haha.
      Russia attacking Ukraine is nothing like Israel attacking Gaza. But yes, they’re both evil.

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        2 days ago

        The main similarity between Russia attacking Ukraine and Hamas capturing hostages October 7th is that you bots insist history started that day, and nothing happened before.

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          2 days ago

          Because you think Ukraine attacked Russia? What reality was that, because it ain’t this one.
          And I don’t think many people still support Israel’s attacking of civilians in Gaza even without considering that the Oct attacks were provoked by decades of conflict.
          Russia’s murderous attempted conquest of Ukraine is unforgivable. Just because little putin didn’t like Ukraine moving to align with the west - that doesn’t justify attacking militarily. There’s a lot of blood on putin’s hands. And it’s also on the hands of pussy Russians who don’t stand up against his atrocities .

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            2 days ago

            Ukraine was allowing the US & NATO to station troops and missiles at the Russian border, in violation of peace agreements. Russia tried to broker peace deals, and the west doubled down on provocations.

            Not just Gaza civilians. Hamas also has every legal & moral right to fight against their oppressors. Israel, as the occupier, has no legal rights in the fight against Hamas.

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              1 day ago

              Utter bs. Russia attacked Ukraine and occupied Crimea. Of course Ukraine did what it could to defend itself. It was under attack. If putting in defensive systems is provocation, that’s only because you want to attack.
              Well, Ukraine has the right to police Hamas. But they don’t have the right to attack civilians or even allow as much civilian damages in the act of policing Hamas as they have.
              It’s quite simple - if you’re attacking - you’re in the wrong. Russia is in the wrong.

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                24 hours ago

                Israel does not have a right to police Hamas. Neither morally nor legally. It is a crime for them to do so, as the occupiers.

                Russia came into Ukraine after the US soft coup, when the US and NATO then started going after the ethnic Russian businesses and the port in Crimea. Very telling that you’re more offended by that than the coup.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Actually if you’re going to say Israel is occupying Gaza then it has the obligation to police it.
                  The changes in Ukraine were based on the will of the people in Ukraine. They were shifting away from the corrupt ways of Russia and toward the more progressive and open ways of the West. One can argue whether the U.S. capitalist ideology is such a great move for sure. But basically they were sick of being pulled into the shit hole that Russia has become. Yes, of course the U.S. and other western countries supported this. And, yes once a country changes its affiliation then it will also rearrange its commerce channels. Russia can reasonably not like this and try to convince Ukraine back into their fold, but they implicitly suck at that because they consider non Russians to be inferior, and so they know they are unattractive at a partner. So they used force and militarily attacked - and that crosses a huge line. Russia has killed people (Ukrainian and Russian), and kidnapped Ukrainian kids in the horrible and stupid war. Russia also has been hurt so much by their own aggression - and they have become morally repugnant - as have anyone defending their murderous ways. Russia would clearly be in a better position now if they hadn’t started this war. They would be in a better position if they walk away now compared to if they keep on this disastrous are unforgivable path. Obviously putin can’t walk away as it would seen clearly then as the failure it is. But its indicative of how pussy Russians are that they don’t kick him out.

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                    20 hours ago

                    No, Israel has no legal right to fight against Hamas whatsoever.

                    The Maiden Coup was specifically staged to overrule the democratic will of the people. Zelenskyy knew this, which is why he ran as a peace candidate who would respect previous agreements with Russia, then broke those promises, outlawed all opposition parties, and canceled all future elections. He also supported erecting monuments of Nazis and naming streets after them, even though less than 5% of the country support the far-right.

                    You don’t give a damn about the will of the Ukrainian people. Ukrainians are reported refusing to support this proxy war, with young men leaving the country in droves.

                    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/31/ukraines-exodus-of-young-men-could-be-fatal/