• CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Utter bs. Russia attacked Ukraine and occupied Crimea. Of course Ukraine did what it could to defend itself. It was under attack. If putting in defensive systems is provocation, that’s only because you want to attack.
    Well, Ukraine has the right to police Hamas. But they don’t have the right to attack civilians or even allow as much civilian damages in the act of policing Hamas as they have.
    It’s quite simple - if you’re attacking - you’re in the wrong. Russia is in the wrong.

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      1 day ago

      Israel does not have a right to police Hamas. Neither morally nor legally. It is a crime for them to do so, as the occupiers.

      Russia came into Ukraine after the US soft coup, when the US and NATO then started going after the ethnic Russian businesses and the port in Crimea. Very telling that you’re more offended by that than the coup.

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        1 day ago

        Actually if you’re going to say Israel is occupying Gaza then it has the obligation to police it.
        The changes in Ukraine were based on the will of the people in Ukraine. They were shifting away from the corrupt ways of Russia and toward the more progressive and open ways of the West. One can argue whether the U.S. capitalist ideology is such a great move for sure. But basically they were sick of being pulled into the shit hole that Russia has become. Yes, of course the U.S. and other western countries supported this. And, yes once a country changes its affiliation then it will also rearrange its commerce channels. Russia can reasonably not like this and try to convince Ukraine back into their fold, but they implicitly suck at that because they consider non Russians to be inferior, and so they know they are unattractive at a partner. So they used force and militarily attacked - and that crosses a huge line. Russia has killed people (Ukrainian and Russian), and kidnapped Ukrainian kids in the horrible and stupid war. Russia also has been hurt so much by their own aggression - and they have become morally repugnant - as have anyone defending their murderous ways. Russia would clearly be in a better position now if they hadn’t started this war. They would be in a better position if they walk away now compared to if they keep on this disastrous are unforgivable path. Obviously putin can’t walk away as it would seen clearly then as the failure it is. But its indicative of how pussy Russians are that they don’t kick him out.

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          1 day ago

          No, Israel has no legal right to fight against Hamas whatsoever.

          The Maiden Coup was specifically staged to overrule the democratic will of the people. Zelenskyy knew this, which is why he ran as a peace candidate who would respect previous agreements with Russia, then broke those promises, outlawed all opposition parties, and canceled all future elections. He also supported erecting monuments of Nazis and naming streets after them, even though less than 5% of the country support the far-right.

          You don’t give a damn about the will of the Ukrainian people. Ukrainians are reported refusing to support this proxy war, with young men leaving the country in droves.

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/31/ukraines-exodus-of-young-men-could-be-fatal/

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            22 hours ago

            You are so wrong on many points. I don’t think there’s any hope for you - you are just a russian who’s fallen to Putin’s propaganda. Sad.
            Most countries don’t have elections when they’re being attacked. It’s not like Russia even has real elections anyway.