Note, I’m neither American, nor heavily in that scene. I’m merely signal boosting what I feel is important information countering lib propaganda.
Note to self: aim and fire your weapon after being shot.
wait, so somebody shot him and he’s being charged with murder?
This is a normal thing in fascist USA. The cops murder people and then prosecute the surviving victims for it.
Why is that strange? Do you not live in a place with laws?
How does being shot make you the murderer and what law is that following
So you don’t live in a place with laws? Must be nice.
what the fuck are you saying
The person you’re talking to isn’t really doing a good job of anything really, but the law they are referencing is felony murder. If you’re committing a felony and someone dies as a result of said felony, whether you directly caused it or not, you can be charged with murder for that death.
I don’t know much about its use, but it sounds like an enhancement charge and enhancement charges are bullshit, so it’s probably mostly abused by cops to fuck minorities.
I understand the need to not give the jackboots an excuse, but WTF is this HOA nonsense at a protest?
Why is the name of the victim everywhere but the killer gets anonymity?
Id guess 50501 contracted with off duty cops.
This explains the convulated reporting I suppose
Glad I took the advice of my brown activist friends and didn’t support 50501. They’re a sketch organization from the start.
DAMN. Yeah that story slipped past me. Thanks for the post.
Video of the incident that shows the “peacekeepers” and cops made up their story.
strategy of tension ass shit
Yeah maybe accepting libs as allies is a mistake.
Yeah maybe accepting libs as allies is a mistake.
Who coulda thunk it?
Welcome to what i have seen called the ‘years of lead paint’.
Yeah send Venmo money to this random QR code! Clowns.
Edit: reports say he was seen move away from the crowd, hid behind a low wall where he removed his rifle from his backpack, and “assumed a firing position” and moved back towards the crowd. No amount of Open Carry allows you to raise that rifle into a ready to shoot position without repercussions.
The clip shows he’s not in a ready to shoot position
What clip, nothing in this post is a clip, nothing in the link is a clip its all images.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/47012172/19515897
Literally top comment
Video entirely misses all the context of the moments leading up to the shots being fired. SOLID evidence
Yeah it’s some evidence vs hearsay and speculation…
You clearly have not interacted with anarchists before
Nooooooo. It’s a leftist DO NOT BRING FACTS AND LOGIC just support them blindly and “amplify the message” from somewhere you don’t live or know jus because it aligns with your narrative.
Kinda crazy tbh. At least it’s not Twitter I guess.
There’s not much that’s more fascist than cops killing people and then prosecuting the surviving victims. Totally normal in USA.
Zero surprise that normies eat it up. We’re indoctrinated into copaganda our while lives.
cops didn’t fire the shots, volunteers did
Not police, just peace police. ACAB.
A single blurry still doesn’t pose a convincing argument that he was or wasn’t pointing the weapon towards the crowds.
I’ve not seen enough to conclude either way. So many contradicting things.
If you were wanting to assist with security, when someone obviously doing security addresses you then you’d try and comply, and explain your intent. But did the security actually address him? Or did he just run away from a gun pointed at him? Or did he have his gun pointed in the direction of the crowd while moving towards the crowd and ignoring security? Much of this doesn’t make sense.
A single blurry still doesn’t pose a convincing argument that he was or wasn’t pointing the weapon towards the crowds.
We don’t go around making plausible reasons and then asking the victim to prove them wrong. Maybe the killers are lying to cover their ass?
Facts on the ground is: Arturo didn’t shoot anyone, had a right to carry, a bystander was killed by the “good guys” and Arturo was shot himself. Nothing in all of this proves that Arturo was a danger to anyone.
“Innocent until proven guilty” mfs when the accused is a leftist
The victim blaming with assumed narratives no less, is astounding.
Unpopular opinion from someone who hasn’t daily-carried a fully-automatic rifle since leaving the job that required it: if you have a gun, expect to be shot (at). I’m sorry about people being injured and a person’s name being sullied in the process, but I stand by my comment. Untrained randos don’t need to stomp around porting ARs. That’s it; unleash the downvotes.
Surprisingly, I agree with you. I think jackbooting around with an AR, lefty or not, is generally stupid.
if you have a gun, expect to be shot (at)
Yeah so the Black Panthers deserved to be shot at because they open-carried to demonstrate their power? Bad take. Needs more information.
Expect =/= deserve
The black panthers open carried in part to expose the hypocrisy of a system that was already indiscriminantly violent towards black people
I don’t see any explanation of why he was trying to blend in with the crowd while injured and hiding his weapon in his backpack. Why didn’t he work with the protest group to get on their protection detail.
Please do not victim blame. People act strange when being shot at sometimes. He was within his rights to carry and not work with official organizations.
At the least, it’s reasonable to expect someone who claims to be an “armed peacekeeper” to check their background before shooting. I don’t know if that firearms sin is worth criminal charges or not, but it’s bad practice.
Probably worth charges when it results in killing an innocent, unarmed person.
