that fact that we more empty homes degrading from abandonment into nothingness in this country than homeless people is surest sign that we have terrible system.
Not sure which country you’re referring to.
In September 2023, He Keng, a former deputy head of the National Bureau of Statistics, said that unfinished and finished-but-vacant apartment projects in China could conceivably house the entire Chinese population of 1.4 billion. (1)
And what’s China’s homelessness statistics especially compared to the US?
Can you please share links to China’s homelessness statistics? Maybe my search engine is junk because I’m struggling to find any information later than 2011 (before some of the efforts to reduce it).
In 2024, home ownership in China is 93%, where in the US it is 65%.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2023/07/10/why-are-there-no-slums-in-china/
How does the Chinese government deal with homelessness?
In the early 2000s, the issues of residential status, rights of migrant workers, and treatment of urban homeless people became a national matter. In 2003, the State Council – the highest executive organ of state power – issued the “Measures for the Rescue and Management of Itinerant and Homeless in Urban Areas”. The new regulation created urban relief stations providing food rations and temporary shelters, abolished the mandatory detention system of people without hukou status or housing, and placed the responsibility on the local authorities for finding housing for homeless people in their hometowns.
Under these measures, cities like Shanghai have set up relief stations for homeless people. When public security – the local police – and urban management officials encounter homeless people, they must assist them in accessing nearby relief stations. All costs are covered by the city’s fiscal budget. For example, the relief management station in Putuo District (with the fourth lowest per capita GDP of Shanghai’s 16 districts and a resident population of 1.24 million), provided shelter and relief to an average of 24.3 homeless people a month from June 2022 to April 2023, which could include repeated cases.
Relief stations provide homeless people with food and basic accommodations, help those who are seriously ill access healthcare, assist them to return to the locations of their household registration by contacting their relatives or the local government, and arrange free transportation home when needed.
Upon returning home, the local county-level government is responsible to help the homeless people, including contacting relatives for care and finding local employment. For a very small number of people who are elderly, have disabilities, or do not have relatives nor the ability to work, the local township people’s government, or the Party-run street office, will provide national support for them in accordance with the “method of providing for extremely impoverished persons”, which is stipulated in the 2014 “Interim Measures for Social Assistance”. The content of the support includes providing basic living conditions, giving care to impoverished individuals who cannot take care of themselves, providing treatment for diseases, and handling funeral affairs, etc.
This series of relief management measures ensure that administrative law enforcement personnel in the city do not simply expel homeless people from the city, but must guarantee that they receive proper assistance, in terms of housing, work, and support systems.
I don’t even know they care to report. I’m unaware
Why don’t you do that google thing you did for your previous comment?
Not sure what you mean. What’s google got to do with my previous comment?
google (verb):
- To search for (something) on the Internet using any comprehensive search engine.
In my building, half the units are just sitting here empty. Guess what country the owner is from?
Doesn’t really matter what country the owner is from. What matters is that the country that contains the houses allows houses to be bought and sold purely for investment. Focusing on who is buying and selling them is barking up the wrong tree. If it wasn’t them it would be someone else, because it’s the system that’s the problem. Go be racist somewhere else. Or just don’t be racist at all.
i’m happy to see the empty apartments where i live; it means that it helps drive down the cost of rent and it’s working, somewhat.
I wonder how many houses this guy own
What an odd thing to wonder. Do you see Chinese state functionaries tooling around the world in megayachts?
China is the second country in the world by number of billionares. In europe cinese businessmen with ties to the government have been buying football clubs and luxury shit for a decade.
Unlike in capitalist states[1][2], the Chinese billionaires don’t run the Chinese state[3][4].
Wow that website! The way it does the links to references as you scroll is so responsive and smooth. EDIT: This is an amazing read, thank you for sharing this!
Seems to me that the fact that 90% of families in China own their home, with 80% of these homes are owned outright is a more important thing to focus on. That’s just me though.
Socialism is not a battle between america and china. Who owns skyscraper in china?
Socialism is a transitional period where the working class holds power in society, but capitalist relations have not yet been abolished. https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/3228-lenin-s-three-theoretical-arguments-about-the-dictatorship-of-the-proletariat
I wouldn’t define socialism as just a period of time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
I’m wondering about how many houses own the state leader that comes out with the quote “houses are not for speculation”
Socialism isn’t a period of time, it’s a stage of development. Meanwhile, you’re making some claim about how many houses Xi owns, so it’s on you to tell us.
Socialism isn’t a period of time, it’s a stage of development.
I encourage you to study more history and not just a specific period of time.
Isn’t the housing situation significantly worse in China? You put entire down payments and then pay the mortgage for the house to still yet be built. And last year so many defaults happened that no houses were being built and no one was being returned their money when they wanted out.
The grass is not greener on their side. It’s still fucked, just a different fucked.
90% of families in China own their home, with 80% of these homes are owned outright. https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes
no, 0% of chinese own their home, it’s a lease from the state
You do know that every house belongs to the government in case of need, right? In every country (except maybe Somalia).
they’re made to last 50 years. Expensive houses are falling apart
