The problem is that technically child rape covers consenual act between teens if one is just over 18. I am saying we need better accepted terminology.
Take statutory rape, it doesn’t distinguish enough.
If some 30 year old person ties down a fighting 5 year old and… straight to the gallows. If a 18.5 year old has consenual sex with a 17.9 year old, the gallows seem a bit extreme. But they are both statutory rape technically. Better terminology would make it easier to assign even harsher penalties than are already assigned for the base case. And they could remove some of the wiggle room it gives judges.
This applies to the Epstein files, how, exactly? Do you think there were a lot of those gray areas in those cases? A lot of consensual sex between people with less than a year’s age difference?
The person was complaining specifically about the words used in the article and that the reporter made up thier own. I was saying it is understandable that the reporter do that since we don’t have naunced enough terminology for the crime. And I argued we really need to work on that to prevent people from not taking the crimes as seriously as they should. When rape includes a 17.9 year old and an 18.1 year old having consenual sex, then when people hear rape, they don’t automatically consider it vile and disturbing. So the word no longer carries the weight it should when it describes other types of rape. But since it could refer to so many things, a new reporter doesn’t want to use it at all so they can avoid being sued for defamation.
Yes, you keep repeating that, and you keep missing the point. Read what I’m saying properly this time:
Do you think that the problem with reporting about the Epstein cases is a matter of not having the proper word to describe the crimes that happened and the victims?
Like, do you think that “underage women” is a reasonable way to describe the victims in the Epstein cases? Not generally, like you keep waffling about, but in the Epstein cases?
Do you think that in the Epstein cases, not generally speaking, it’s likely that there was consensual sex between a 17,9 year old and a 18,1 year old or whatever the fuck fantasy scenario you keep concocting? Do you think that in the Epstein cases it’s justifiable to keep using “sex with a child” or “sex with underage women” instead of “rape” because there might have been consensual sex between two people barely a few months apart in age? I’ll repeat, everybody here except you is talking about the verified cases of grown men raping under-18 children documented in the Epstein files.
I added helpful bolding to the relevant parts to try and keep you on topic, which is rape of children by Epstein and people associated with him.
Man, you are a true idiot. Technically it is statutory rape. I am saying it needs it’s own name so we can single those people out and punish them more severely. But you can’t read can you. So you are arguing AGAINST harsher penalties for a sexual act with a 5 year old. You probably would sign a petition to end womens suffrage too. Learn to read. Help your own cause.
You do realise that you’re talking about literal child rape slaves here? In which possibe scenario could what happened to them have been consensual?
Edit: inb4 semantic wankery about what constitutes a “rape slave”
The problem is that technically child rape covers consenual act between teens if one is just over 18. I am saying we need better accepted terminology.
Take statutory rape, it doesn’t distinguish enough.
If some 30 year old person ties down a fighting 5 year old and… straight to the gallows. If a 18.5 year old has consenual sex with a 17.9 year old, the gallows seem a bit extreme. But they are both statutory rape technically. Better terminology would make it easier to assign even harsher penalties than are already assigned for the base case. And they could remove some of the wiggle room it gives judges.
This applies to the Epstein files, how, exactly? Do you think there were a lot of those gray areas in those cases? A lot of consensual sex between people with less than a year’s age difference?
The person was complaining specifically about the words used in the article and that the reporter made up thier own. I was saying it is understandable that the reporter do that since we don’t have naunced enough terminology for the crime. And I argued we really need to work on that to prevent people from not taking the crimes as seriously as they should. When rape includes a 17.9 year old and an 18.1 year old having consenual sex, then when people hear rape, they don’t automatically consider it vile and disturbing. So the word no longer carries the weight it should when it describes other types of rape. But since it could refer to so many things, a new reporter doesn’t want to use it at all so they can avoid being sued for defamation.
Yes, you keep repeating that, and you keep missing the point. Read what I’m saying properly this time:
Do you think that the problem with reporting about the Epstein cases is a matter of not having the proper word to describe the crimes that happened and the victims?
Like, do you think that “underage women” is a reasonable way to describe the victims in the Epstein cases? Not generally, like you keep waffling about, but in the Epstein cases?
Do you think that in the Epstein cases, not generally speaking, it’s likely that there was consensual sex between a 17,9 year old and a 18,1 year old or whatever the fuck fantasy scenario you keep concocting? Do you think that in the Epstein cases it’s justifiable to keep using “sex with a child” or “sex with underage women” instead of “rape” because there might have been consensual sex between two people barely a few months apart in age? I’ll repeat, everybody here except you is talking about the verified cases of grown men raping under-18 children documented in the Epstein files.
I added helpful bolding to the relevant parts to try and keep you on topic, which is rape of children by Epstein and people associated with him.
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Man, you are a true idiot. Technically it is statutory rape. I am saying it needs it’s own name so we can single those people out and punish them more severely. But you can’t read can you. So you are arguing AGAINST harsher penalties for a sexual act with a 5 year old. You probably would sign a petition to end womens suffrage too. Learn to read. Help your own cause.
Go fuck yourself and die you stupid shitty creep.