• Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Just because both sides benefit doesn’t mean that it’s not exploitative. A slave gets the benefit of housing and food provided by their master, that doesn’t mean the slave isn’t exploited.

    Like slavery a landlord uses a claim to property to extract labor / wages / money out of a person that doesn’t have a claim to property. That is exploitative.

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      2 days ago

      So if I hypothetically own a home and rent my basement suite out, you think I would be inherently exploiting someone? What’s my alternative? What if I need the rental income to afford the mortgage?

      I feel like following this train of thought results in either nobody owns anything to keep it fair, or everyone is entitled to a home for free, both of which are not realistic.

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        If all the money just goes to the interest on the mortgage then no, you aren’t exploiting them, the bank is exploiting both of you. If the person is paying for your equity then you are benefiting off of that person’s misfortune of not being able to own a house.

        Many slave owners were relatively poor or heavily in debt, Washington wasn’t solvent until after his presidency, Jefferson too. They would probably say they have to work their slaves to pay off their debts, doesn’t make it right.

        I feel like following this train of thought results in either nobody owns anything to keep it fair

        Sort of, both anarchists and communists support the abolition of private, not personal, property, ie stuff you own not to use, but to make money off of. So you can own a house to live in, you can’t own a house to rent out.

        or everyone is entitled to a home for free, both of which are not realistic.

        Not necessarily, the third option is public / social housing. The government owns housing and operates it at cost instead of seeking a profit. So all the money used to pay for housing is going to produce and maintain housing instead of into the pockets of landlords. It’s not exploitative assuming the government is democratic, just as taxes aren’t exploitative if you get a say in what happens to them.

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          2 days ago

          Well, I can’t say I necessarily agree with everything, but I can see your points.

          Thanks for sharing your POV.