IF this is the slate, Democrats have already lost.
AOC might be able to do it. She’d need to start now, and its going to need to be a people powered campaign. They work fundamentally differently than corporate donation powered campaigns. Any other form of candidate or campaign will be to submit to fascism entirely.
Advocating for any of the other names is about as much as advocating for Republicans directly. They wont win.
Some alternatives:
Ro Khanna
Graham Platner (he’d be have been only been in the senate for 2yrs, but he’s got the potential)
Chris Van Hollen
Abdul El-Sayed
Dean Phillips
John Conyers
Jon Stewart
Shri Thanedar
The next president will be both M4A and Abolish ICE or they’ll be a Republican.
This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.
I agree with this evaluation.
but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared
I’m aware and I think this is already a strategic mis-step. They needed to begin campaigning the day that Trump won. This is how Mamdani won. Its how Bernie came within a hogs breath of toppling the Clinton dynasty from within their own party. They didn’t wait, they went to work. People powered campaigns operate in a fundamentally different manner and need more time to get going. However, they have the advantage that they exponentiate in how they scale. While they simultaneously take longer to get going, they’re practically impossible to stop once they do. If Bernie had even one more month, maybe two more months to campaign in the run up to the 2016 primary, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Right now no progressive/ grass-roots populist has thrown their had in the ring and I think this is a mistake.
Jon Stewart might be both capable and electable but you’d have to talk the DNC into it which would be a tough sell and you’d have to talk Jon Stewart into it which would be a tougher sell.
I don’t think they could stop Jon Stewart. Not even close. And the lesson on why they can’t stop him is something ANY progressive looking to challenge to the DNC would need to keep in mind. The DNC seems to only be able to shut down threats from within the DNC. Jon would be operating outside of their power structure.
Didn’t stop them from side lining Bernie. He was the most popular presidential candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the Ballot either time.
Didn’t stop them from side lining Bernie. He was the most popular presidential candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the Ballot either time.
Still fucking hurts. We didn’t have to experience ANYTHING like we have in the previous 10 years. It was literally all optional and the DNC chose to expose us to this.
Consider planning ahead to campaign/ volunteer for them. Also, plan the uncomfortable work of converting your friends, family, strange cousins, neighbors, people at the bus stop, everyone you can to vote for AOC.
Donations are great and important, but at the end of the day, its people power that wins elections. Actual humans contacting other humans they know and explaining why they should support the candidate.
Dean Phillips needs to be forgotten. I’m from his state, I know and have run a business for one of his closest friends; these are NOT people who should have power over anyone. Beyond being HUGE supporters of the Palestinian genocide, their interest is in money. That’s it. Dean Phillips is shallow, stupid, and vain. Nice of him to call out Biden, but I cannot fathom how he is on any kind of list for the actual President. I guess because he’s not known in other places? People in Minnesota do not take him seriously, there are reasons for that - we know him.
I would sacrifice Jon’s pleasure for the sake of the country. He’s a good person and believe in him. If he announced, everyone who knows up from down wouldn’t bother competing, outside of the Democratic primary where people might try to move him in some positions. But it would be a fools errand and a waste of political capitol to try and beat them, for either Republicans or Democrats.
I had this perspective until I started watching him again recently. I know my politics have moved left since I grew up listening to him. But he’s stood still. It’s kind of painful to watch how much he loses the forest for the trees on every single issue. Feels like he’s a gatekeeper at this point. Basically keeping a large portion of millennials from being moved further left.
He’d be the best president in my lifetime if he won. But, that bar is in the dirt.
Ehhh… Not every single issue. He’s always trying to do the right thing, and sometimes he lets his biases creep in (like his work with first responders coloring how he views the police in general).
But I think it’s clear that his heart is always in the right place, and he’s always interested in discussing things with people who know what they’re talking about to get to the truth, even if that truth isn’t what he originally thought it may have been.
And yeah, that would be better than anything else we’ve ever had. Obama tried to portray himself as being this way, but it was mostly just advertising. Jon is the real deal.
There is another one that would be even better, than Jon, whom can win. I fear he’s too accomodating, too trusting, of the establishment however. I think Jon lacks the cut throat desire to build and run a political machine that can dominate politics. I think I know someone that can though.
I don’t want to say as of yet. Stewart could win though, at least legitimately, I don’t know if he would let the republicans just take it from him, that’s partly on us too, we have to make it so they can’t just steal it anyway.
Yes. Presidential announcements are fragile affairs, candidates are attacked early, and for other reasons, it’s bad luck to jump the gun, not the least before that person is planning on running.
Not as dumb as nominating hillary, biden, then kamala I would argue.
And only assholes post moving pictures in response, have a little respect for yourself. I also point to your moving picture in your name. You should be ashamed of yourself do better.
You stating that “you know who should be nominated, someone even more likely to win than JS” but then not saying whom, is quite literally, the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. You are being an idiot.
Stewart would not run, and perhaps for the best. Whoever holds that position will have to be disappointing in some regards due to reality, and Stewart may be better only soeaking to the aspects he excels at without owning the stuff that would tarnish his image and legacy.
IF this is the slate, Democrats have already lost.
AOC might be able to do it. She’d need to start now, and its going to need to be a people powered campaign. They work fundamentally differently than corporate donation powered campaigns. Any other form of candidate or campaign will be to submit to fascism entirely.
Advocating for any of the other names is about as much as advocating for Republicans directly. They wont win.
Some alternatives:
Ro Khanna
Graham Platner (he’d be have been only been in the senate for 2yrs, but he’s got the potential)
Chris Van Hollen
Abdul El-Sayed
Dean Phillips
John Conyers
Jon Stewart
Shri Thanedar
The next president will be both M4A and Abolish ICE or they’ll be a Republican.
Agree with your message, but keep in mind that 2028 is in 3 years, no one is running at this moment or declared they will be running.
This is corporate media just setting candidates for us.
I agree with this evaluation.
I’m aware and I think this is already a strategic mis-step. They needed to begin campaigning the day that Trump won. This is how Mamdani won. Its how Bernie came within a hogs breath of toppling the Clinton dynasty from within their own party. They didn’t wait, they went to work. People powered campaigns operate in a fundamentally different manner and need more time to get going. However, they have the advantage that they exponentiate in how they scale. While they simultaneously take longer to get going, they’re practically impossible to stop once they do. If Bernie had even one more month, maybe two more months to campaign in the run up to the 2016 primary, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Right now no progressive/ grass-roots populist has thrown their had in the ring and I think this is a mistake.
Right on!
Jon Stewart might be both capable and electable but you’d have to talk the DNC into it which would be a tough sell and you’d have to talk Jon Stewart into it which would be a tougher sell.
I don’t think they could stop Jon Stewart. Not even close. And the lesson on why they can’t stop him is something ANY progressive looking to challenge to the DNC would need to keep in mind. The DNC seems to only be able to shut down threats from within the DNC. Jon would be operating outside of their power structure.
Didn’t stop them from side lining Bernie. He was the most popular presidential candidate for two elections in a row and didn’t appear on the Ballot either time.
Still fucking hurts. We didn’t have to experience ANYTHING like we have in the previous 10 years. It was literally all optional and the DNC chose to expose us to this.
AOC has started. I just donated to her last week.
Consider planning ahead to campaign/ volunteer for them. Also, plan the uncomfortable work of converting your friends, family, strange cousins, neighbors, people at the bus stop, everyone you can to vote for AOC.
Donations are great and important, but at the end of the day, its people power that wins elections. Actual humans contacting other humans they know and explaining why they should support the candidate.
Definitely. I could probably help with graphic design of materials if that kind of thing is required.
Dean Phillips needs to be forgotten. I’m from his state, I know and have run a business for one of his closest friends; these are NOT people who should have power over anyone. Beyond being HUGE supporters of the Palestinian genocide, their interest is in money. That’s it. Dean Phillips is shallow, stupid, and vain. Nice of him to call out Biden, but I cannot fathom how he is on any kind of list for the actual President. I guess because he’s not known in other places? People in Minnesota do not take him seriously, there are reasons for that - we know him.
I like John Stewart way too much to ever want him to be a politician.
I would sacrifice Jon’s pleasure for the sake of the country. He’s a good person and believe in him. If he announced, everyone who knows up from down wouldn’t bother competing, outside of the Democratic primary where people might try to move him in some positions. But it would be a fools errand and a waste of political capitol to try and beat them, for either Republicans or Democrats.
I had this perspective until I started watching him again recently. I know my politics have moved left since I grew up listening to him. But he’s stood still. It’s kind of painful to watch how much he loses the forest for the trees on every single issue. Feels like he’s a gatekeeper at this point. Basically keeping a large portion of millennials from being moved further left.
He’d be the best president in my lifetime if he won. But, that bar is in the dirt.
Ehhh… Not every single issue. He’s always trying to do the right thing, and sometimes he lets his biases creep in (like his work with first responders coloring how he views the police in general).
But I think it’s clear that his heart is always in the right place, and he’s always interested in discussing things with people who know what they’re talking about to get to the truth, even if that truth isn’t what he originally thought it may have been.
And yeah, that would be better than anything else we’ve ever had. Obama tried to portray himself as being this way, but it was mostly just advertising. Jon is the real deal.
There is another one that would be even better, than Jon, whom can win. I fear he’s too accomodating, too trusting, of the establishment however. I think Jon lacks the cut throat desire to build and run a political machine that can dominate politics. I think I know someone that can though.
So who is it you think would outperform Stewart?
I don’t want to say as of yet. Stewart could win though, at least legitimately, I don’t know if he would let the republicans just take it from him, that’s partly on us too, we have to make it so they can’t just steal it anyway.
So you think you know someone even more capable of winning than Stewart, but you want to keep it a secret?
Yes. Presidential announcements are fragile affairs, candidates are attacked early, and for other reasons, it’s bad luck to jump the gun, not the least before that person is planning on running.
Not as dumb as nominating hillary, biden, then kamala I would argue.
And only assholes post moving pictures in response, have a little respect for yourself. I also point to your moving picture in your name. You should be ashamed of yourself do better.
No you misunderstand me.
You stating that “you know who should be nominated, someone even more likely to win than JS” but then not saying whom, is quite literally, the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard. You are being an idiot.
Stewart would not run, and perhaps for the best. Whoever holds that position will have to be disappointing in some regards due to reality, and Stewart may be better only soeaking to the aspects he excels at without owning the stuff that would tarnish his image and legacy.
I think it would be hard to talk Stewart into running but only because an election and presidency would be so draining for him.
Stewart might run. They’re closer to running than they’ve ever been before.
Not with that attitude. Stewart will run if we need him, and we might.