You do realize how this just doesn’t follow logically right? I don’t think I’ve ever once watched the Macy’s day parade ever. I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it. That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure. The person you’re talking to is asking for any sort of source. Only one person in this thread has even bothered to discuss this properly with that person. The truth of the matter is that you need factual numbers to discuss this. You can’t go off of feelings or Twitter replies or comments in overwhelmingly democratic communities. You need an actual source with factual numbers. Until there is something like that then it’s pointless discussing whether the parade was a failure or not.
I don’t think I’ve ever once watched the Macy’s day parade ever. I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it. That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure
I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it.
Hey look, what I said was accurate.
Thus making the Macy’s parade the most successful.
That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure
Hey look! You proved my point a second time!
Anecdotal evidence means nothing! The person I responded to said that they didn’t watch it and most people probably didn’t, that makes it a failure. Literally the source you provided (hey look, a source!) shows that most Americans not watching a parade doesn’t make it a failure, and that anecdotal evidence is the worst kind of evidence, in this case leading to a completely incorrect conclusion by Aeao.
Previous years it was upward toward 50 million. Its more of the decline of television in general. For example This video has 1.4 million views alone. The televised numbers arent reflecting how many people prefer watching it in online these days.
And before you say “but 50 million is only 15% of the population that’s not most!”. But having 15% of the population consistently watch an event year after year is exceptional the only thing that draws in more americans annually is the superbowl.
You are completely missing the point. I explicitly said “That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure” in response to “most Americans” not watching something. Even 50 million Americans watching an event is not “most Americans”, even 150 million isn’t “most Americans”. What Aeao said is clearly not a correct way to measure the success of something, which you have demonstrated (and which I said in my original comment). Macy’s day parade isn’t a failure even though most Americans don’t watch it nor think of it. So why is that standard being applied to this parade, which we don’t even have numbers for.
You can’t even make the claim for this parade because there aren’t any numbers. And Aeao saying things like “I didn’t watch, did you?” To imply that it wasn’t successful is just disingenuous.
Since someone probably thinks I’m defending this fucking parade, I have to explicitly explain this. Imagine a trumper comes up to you and says “the no kings day protests were a failure, hardly anyone showed up”, how are you going to prove them wrong? Pictures, videos? Statistics of the actual numbers of people that participated? Ok, now what happens when a trumper says to you, “trumps birthday celebration was a massive success”. What are you going to do then? Where are the photos and videos (they sure aren’t in this post, nor in the article this post is about). Where are the numbers? The article only calls out that they expected 250k. It provides no other numbers.
Saying “I didn’t watch it, so this is a failure” is the exact same thing as me saying “I didn’t watch the Macy’s day parade so it is a failure. It’s an idiotic conclusion using anecdotal evidence that does nothing to prove anything. All it does is make the person making the claim look like they don’t care about facts and simply make up conclusions based on no evidence.
Let me cut thru the fat and just explain why your argument is ridiculous. I’ll put politics and jokes aside.
I love a battle semantics more than most. I once brought a $100 dictionary to my HOA pool to explain “dusk” to the security guard.
Let me explain why your argument is silly.
You want numbers to prove it was a failure, correct?
Okay. We will have them in a couple days when they are available. However in the meantime YOU need to define your parameters if you are going to argue. What exactly is a “failure” to you? How little viewing/attendance is the threshold for this argument? When is a parade a failure exactly?
If you want to argue what is or isn’t a failed parade and you want proof… Fine, but we need your goal posts, we need to know you describe as a failed parade because numbers are just numbers. What’s your metric?
Just to make this clear, you are doing the exact same thing that conservatives do; make a claim with no evidence to prove so, when questioned divert and/or provide anecdotal evidence, and then when pushed further state that it’s the questioner’s job to provide the evidence. You’re acting like you’re better than conservatives and then doing the same bullshit they do. Be better.
You’re the one not providing figures and saying it’s a failure dude. It’s not my job to define failure, you’re the one making the claim. Not to pull out logical fallacies but this is the biggest case of “burden of proof” I’ve ever seen. I don’t really give a shit how many people went to the parade, it’s a huge waste of money and a joke no matter what.
You are the one making crazy claims without proof. Either wait for the proof or don’t be mad when others point out that you have no proof. I’m just helping out the poor other soul that pointed out your ridiculous claims that serve only to make democrats and people supporting the protests look bad. You know how they make us look bad? Because what happens when someone shows up and says “the no kings day protests were a huge failure” and you provide the nice stats that are already available showing it’s a success, and then that same person says “the birthday parade was a huge success” and you have zero facts to back that up! You literally only make it look like you’re incapable of being unbiased.
You do realize how this just doesn’t follow logically right? I don’t think I’ve ever once watched the Macy’s day parade ever. I sure as hell don’t think that most Americans watch it. That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure. The person you’re talking to is asking for any sort of source. Only one person in this thread has even bothered to discuss this properly with that person. The truth of the matter is that you need factual numbers to discuss this. You can’t go off of feelings or Twitter replies or comments in overwhelmingly democratic communities. You need an actual source with factual numbers. Until there is something like that then it’s pointless discussing whether the parade was a failure or not.
23 million people watch it last year. And it out performed all other entertainment specials.. Thus making the Macy’s parade the most successful.
Hey look, what I said was accurate.
Hey look! You proved my point a second time!
Anecdotal evidence means nothing! The person I responded to said that they didn’t watch it and most people probably didn’t, that makes it a failure. Literally the source you provided (hey look, a source!) shows that most Americans not watching a parade doesn’t make it a failure, and that anecdotal evidence is the worst kind of evidence, in this case leading to a completely incorrect conclusion by Aeao.
Previous years it was upward toward 50 million. Its more of the decline of television in general. For example This video has 1.4 million views alone. The televised numbers arent reflecting how many people prefer watching it in online these days.
And before you say “but 50 million is only 15% of the population that’s not most!”. But having 15% of the population consistently watch an event year after year is exceptional the only thing that draws in more americans annually is the superbowl.
You are completely missing the point. I explicitly said “That doesn’t mean that the Macy’s day parade is a failure” in response to “most Americans” not watching something. Even 50 million Americans watching an event is not “most Americans”, even 150 million isn’t “most Americans”. What Aeao said is clearly not a correct way to measure the success of something, which you have demonstrated (and which I said in my original comment). Macy’s day parade isn’t a failure even though most Americans don’t watch it nor think of it. So why is that standard being applied to this parade, which we don’t even have numbers for.
You can’t even make the claim for this parade because there aren’t any numbers. And Aeao saying things like “I didn’t watch, did you?” To imply that it wasn’t successful is just disingenuous.
Since someone probably thinks I’m defending this fucking parade, I have to explicitly explain this. Imagine a trumper comes up to you and says “the no kings day protests were a failure, hardly anyone showed up”, how are you going to prove them wrong? Pictures, videos? Statistics of the actual numbers of people that participated? Ok, now what happens when a trumper says to you, “trumps birthday celebration was a massive success”. What are you going to do then? Where are the photos and videos (they sure aren’t in this post, nor in the article this post is about). Where are the numbers? The article only calls out that they expected 250k. It provides no other numbers.
Saying “I didn’t watch it, so this is a failure” is the exact same thing as me saying “I didn’t watch the Macy’s day parade so it is a failure. It’s an idiotic conclusion using anecdotal evidence that does nothing to prove anything. All it does is make the person making the claim look like they don’t care about facts and simply make up conclusions based on no evidence.
Let me cut thru the fat and just explain why your argument is ridiculous. I’ll put politics and jokes aside.
I love a battle semantics more than most. I once brought a $100 dictionary to my HOA pool to explain “dusk” to the security guard.
Let me explain why your argument is silly.
You want numbers to prove it was a failure, correct?
Okay. We will have them in a couple days when they are available. However in the meantime YOU need to define your parameters if you are going to argue. What exactly is a “failure” to you? How little viewing/attendance is the threshold for this argument? When is a parade a failure exactly?
If you want to argue what is or isn’t a failed parade and you want proof… Fine, but we need your goal posts, we need to know you describe as a failed parade because numbers are just numbers. What’s your metric?
Just to make this clear, you are doing the exact same thing that conservatives do; make a claim with no evidence to prove so, when questioned divert and/or provide anecdotal evidence, and then when pushed further state that it’s the questioner’s job to provide the evidence. You’re acting like you’re better than conservatives and then doing the same bullshit they do. Be better.
You’re the one not providing figures and saying it’s a failure dude. It’s not my job to define failure, you’re the one making the claim. Not to pull out logical fallacies but this is the biggest case of “burden of proof” I’ve ever seen. I don’t really give a shit how many people went to the parade, it’s a huge waste of money and a joke no matter what.
You are the one making crazy claims without proof. Either wait for the proof or don’t be mad when others point out that you have no proof. I’m just helping out the poor other soul that pointed out your ridiculous claims that serve only to make democrats and people supporting the protests look bad. You know how they make us look bad? Because what happens when someone shows up and says “the no kings day protests were a huge failure” and you provide the nice stats that are already available showing it’s a success, and then that same person says “the birthday parade was a huge success” and you have zero facts to back that up! You literally only make it look like you’re incapable of being unbiased.