• HubertManne@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    911 will never mean more to me than how osama bin laden won by getting us to gut a massive amount of our civil rights.

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      3 days ago

      It definitely brought out the very worst impulses in our people. I still remember the exact number of Muslim students who got ran off campus when I was in college at the time: 47.

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        3 days ago

        that lead to americas current state. weakened. divided. quickly losing its position on the world stage. who knows if that was intended but it was the result. an oponent does not give away their whole hand. if he had explained what he thought would happen it would cause us to behave differently these last 25 years.

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          You started by saying he achieved his goal, now you’re saying “who knows” what his goals were? I think that’s kind of an admission, don’t you?

          He was quite explicit about his goals, which were to make ordinary Americans aware of the US’ role in the Middle East and to oppose it, leading to a change in US foreign policy. Claiming that what he wanted was to weaken the US 25 years in the future with no evidence is not really something I’m going to entertain seriously.

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            I think your reading to much into my remarks. Im not writing a disertation on 911 im expressing my feelings around 911. Ill admit my use of language likely caused this especially on the internet over us hanging in a basement as its hard to do the back and forth. Basically I feel he would be pleased at the result.