religion is a blight on humanity and should be left behind if we want to survive as a species. it has no inherent value and serves only to hold us back and harm us. feel free to out yourself as one of the intellectually negligent by disagreeing with me.
American atheists’ favorite hobby is reconstructing christian cosmology from an unexamined base of fundamentally christian assumptions about the world. Look at roko’s basilisk.
Understanding religion gives you a better context for the culture you emerge from, how it got to be where it is, and what underlining assumptions drive it ideologically. You can wish for a clean break from that historical context all you want, is isn’t gonna actually happen.
understanding isnt believing. people need to be educated about the dangers and failures of religion if we ever want to move past it. i would never advocate for forgetting it. but sure put words in my mouth.
I’m not sure it’s possible to move past it, at least not in any of our lifetimes. Some long tail where specific faiths wither away bit by bit with each generation, maybe. Though, I find it hard to imagine that space not somehow being filled with some other form of spirituality.
More to the point, surely you don’t mean all religions?
you just keep putting words in my mouth. you cant end religion by forcing people to stop. you end it by educating people and teaching them critical thinking, so they can see the inherent flaws of religion for themselves and decide for themselves to leave it behind. its not a coincidence that more educated people tend to be much less religious. clearly the solution is more education for everyone, which would also help human society in innumerable other ways.
its not a coincidence that more educated people tend to be much less religious.
It’s not a coincidence because it’s not true. The effect of education on religion varies considerably depending on country, and that’s before we even consider confounding variables.
That would certainly curtail the most reactionary elements of religion, but I don’t think that would end it. Maybe for some. But faith, like any institution cultural or otherwise, evolves with its environment.
religion is a blight on humanity and should be left behind if we want to survive as a species. it has no inherent value and serves only to hold us back and harm us. feel free to out yourself as one of the intellectually negligent by disagreeing with me.
American atheists’ favorite hobby is reconstructing christian cosmology from an unexamined base of fundamentally christian assumptions about the world. Look at roko’s basilisk.
Understanding religion gives you a better context for the culture you emerge from, how it got to be where it is, and what underlining assumptions drive it ideologically. You can wish for a clean break from that historical context all you want, is isn’t gonna actually happen.
understanding isnt believing. people need to be educated about the dangers and failures of religion if we ever want to move past it. i would never advocate for forgetting it. but sure put words in my mouth.
I’m not sure it’s possible to move past it, at least not in any of our lifetimes. Some long tail where specific faiths wither away bit by bit with each generation, maybe. Though, I find it hard to imagine that space not somehow being filled with some other form of spirituality.
More to the point, surely you don’t mean all religions?
yeah all religions. believing in made up bullshit is dangerous and wrong.
Hm. You wanna go to tribal land and tell them we’ve once again decided they can’t practice their culture? Cus that’s what your arguing for.
you just keep putting words in my mouth. you cant end religion by forcing people to stop. you end it by educating people and teaching them critical thinking, so they can see the inherent flaws of religion for themselves and decide for themselves to leave it behind. its not a coincidence that more educated people tend to be much less religious. clearly the solution is more education for everyone, which would also help human society in innumerable other ways.
It’s not a coincidence because it’s not true. The effect of education on religion varies considerably depending on country, and that’s before we even consider confounding variables.
That would certainly curtail the most reactionary elements of religion, but I don’t think that would end it. Maybe for some. But faith, like any institution cultural or otherwise, evolves with its environment.
Understanding it is why I don’t believe it
understanding it doesn’t make it true. it isn’t real, but the harm it perpetuates definitely is.
But that is literally what they believe, though. Most Christians don’t know or care about theological deep cuts
Yeah as opposed to other modes of self-identification such as the famously wholesome nationalism.
More serious, something tells me you only have one or two (definitely not more than three) religions in mind with that massively broad statement.