• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    Imma be real this “LiBeRtArIaNs” bullshit is new, misguided, and region specific, and even within that region is debatable.

    Small “L” (goddamn sans serif fonts) “libertarian” is literally just the diametric opposition if “authoritarian.” That’s it.

    “Big L” “Libertarian” for some reason has come to mean The American Libertarian Party™ specifically. “They’ve been taken over by the right” maybe, sure, but they can’t have the entire concept of libertarianism no more than the US Democrat party is the entire embodiment of democracy, they’re named after those concepts but those concepts still exist without the bounds of the US party and the whims of said US parties’ current leaders. Even if the Libertarian Party™ happened to perfectly align with your views on what “liberatarian” (as in the antithesis of authoritarian) means at any point in the future, they still don’t have ownership of the concept simply because they’re named that.

    In reality, “libertarian” describes any number of people and ideologies as long as they’re anti-authoritarian, including anarchism, and just like anarchism you can find many examples of people who claim it but do not understand it in the slightest, or seek to pervert it to their will intentionally.

    Don’t let authoritarians poison you against a word for a concept in an attempt to sway you to their side.

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      I understand your point, but it’s a losing battle. Words change as people use them. Language evolves. A lot of modern vocabulary is bastardized from its origin. It’s not authoritarians necessarily poisoning language, even though it can be.

      Socialism “was” a poisoned term, that I think has slowly returned to it’s meaning.

      Example: Nice

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        If that’s the case than literally now literally always means “figuratively.”

        And sometimes, it does, when used incorrectly or sarcastically, but that doesn’t mean that the literal definition of “literally” is no more.

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            That would mean the concept of “literality” no longer exists, but you just used it, (I’m taking your words literally, to mean that you believe “literal” now means “figurative” in perpetuity) so it must still exist. I also just used it, so even if you meant “literally” figuratively, the literal definition still exists, because I just used it.

            You see why we can’t just say “oh welp words change” now? They do but also if nothing has meaning just stop speaking languages at this point because they’re, well, meaningless.

            Hell I’ll give you another popular example, you ever watched South Park? You remember the biker episode? They argue the same thing you do here, that words change meaning, but about a different word (and with a better case for it, no less). You wanna defend the evolved use of that word publicly here right now?

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              My god, I was being facetious in that last comment. I was merely highlighting that your frustration was not going to change the course of people’s use of language.

              I’m not arguing that definitions are meaningless.

              Chill.