[identical castles and ships are facing eachother, one side with EU colors, the other side with USA colors]

[EU side]

  • OUR BLESSED EUROPEAN UNION - Our enlightened union
  • Our glorious lobbying democracy
  • Our noble asymmetric trade deals
  • Our heroic Frontex

[USA side] THEIR BACKWARDS UNITED STATES

  • Their barbarous federation
  • Their wicked technofeudal oligarchy
  • Their primitive imperialism
  • Their brutish ICE

https://thebad.website/comic/good_imperialism_and_bad_imperialism

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  • Bad@jlai.luOP
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    2 months ago

    Based on this meme shared by Azolus, had to remake it as a smuggie because I wanted a cleaner version to share in french places and tbh I just can’t wait to see people pissed off by it

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    7 days ago

    I like this, but a minor nitpick on execution: I think the texts should be the other way around heightwise. Frontex and Ice are the boats patroling the mediterranean and the mexican border. And the imperialist systems they serve should be up in the towers.

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    2 months ago

    So, we’re doing the false equivalence “Both sides bad” posting on this level too, now? It was bad enough when it was dissuading American leftists from voting by both-sidesing GOP and the democrats, now we’re supposed to believe Frontex is as bad as ICE and EU trade policy is as moronic as Trump’s baseless tariff farts?

    Note, this is not an invitation for you to tell the class the bad things Forex has done. I’m well aware. They’re not patrolling European streets rounding up people who don’t “look right”, without identifying themselves, in flagrant violation of the law, and without ensuring their kidnappees detainees receive due process.

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      2 months ago

      This meme is proving itself true. People romanticize the EU too much and/or don’t know about what’s going on in here.

      I spend a lot of my free time helping migrants in my home country (France), they do get rounded up and sent in camps called “Centre de Rétention Administrative”, some really really really bad places. Our police has been controlling IDs of parents outside schools, doing surprise ID checks at workplaces, etc. for a very long time. What ICE is currently doing isn’t new to us. For example, earlier this year, we had a very public and pretty big ICE-like operation, and believe it or not, the general public cheered.

      Mate you tell me to not talk about Frontex, well too bad, I will. The official death count is now at 66 519 as of 2025. That’s just the documented death count, imagine what the real one is. We’re not even counting Libyan torture camps and other similar lovely places paid for by our taxes. Some of my friends lost family members because of Frontex, I won’t shut up about it just to please you. ICE is bad but it’s not an exclusively american evil, it’s a standard and expected incarnation of capitalist imperialism.

      Yes, I’m happy to be living in the EU rather than in the USA. I do think the USA is a much worse place right now. But the difference is much easier to argue about when you’re not on the wrong side of those massively murderous policies.

      TL;DR: We have our own camps. Greece has one that’s reminiscent of your Alligator Alcatraz. Chill tf out.

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        8 days ago

        Hey man, just wanted to drop by and say thank you.

        It is actually crazy how nationalist we have become as europeans and blinded by our own propaganda.

        Our complicity and inaction in face of the genocide in gaza has opened my eyes as to how much i romanticised this shit. Not that i wasn’t critic, we have all been ooooooh soooo critical. But to what end?

        I hope more people wake up to this shit but for now even my friends cheer on our rising militarisation.

        “We need to be ready for war by 2029” How much would peace cost please?

      • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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        2 months ago

        I can’t even think of a cynical support remark for this, your comment took me on an emotional rollercoaster first of despair and emptiness that then gradually turned into a cold, burning hatred…

        It’s an accurate write-up that takes you back to the bleak, cold truth about capitalism:

        The Deserter: The mask of humanity fall from capital. It has to take it off to kill everyone — everything you love; all the hope and tenderness in the world. It has to take it off, just for one second. To do the deed. And then you see it. As it strangles and beats your friends to death… the sweetest, most courageous people in the world… (he’s silent for a second) You see the fear and power in its eyes. Then you know.
        You: What?
        The Deserter: That the bourgeois are not human.

        (If it’s inappropriate to quote Disco Elysium here, please tell me)

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      2 months ago

      Oh if that’s something you actually want, hit me up whenever you think a meme deserves to be upscaled and if I have time I’ll do it.

      Remade this one too but I don’t think it needed a quality upgrade tbh it’s just for fun/to enlarge my collection of image replies: