• 0 Posts
  • 23 Comments
Joined 2 years ago
cake
Cake day: April 18th, 2024

help-circle
  • If we want the year of the Linux desktop to actually happen we need to have good GUI tools for almost everything. The second you say “command line” most people’s eyes glaze over and they say they’ll stick with Windows. Believe it or not guys, most people just want something that functions out of the box and they don’t want to mess with it.




  • DiabolicalBird@lemmy.catoMicroblog Memes@lemmy.worldI'm foss plus steam
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    17 days ago

    The problem is when said research runs you straight to a bunch of nasty people over and over. Really dampens enthusiasm when trying to get into something. Veganism is not something I personally want to get into (I’m not opposed, I just read threads to get other perspectives on things in general), but I observe the same behaviour in vegan threads as I do in other communities with die-hard enthusiasts for things that I am into. The same behaviour is also in Linux communities which makes me hesitate to recommend it to people, because it has a toxic shithead problem.

    Kinda like when you look up a problem and the first thing you run into is a guy telling the op that they’re a moron and to just google it


  • DiabolicalBird@lemmy.catoMicroblog Memes@lemmy.worldI'm foss plus steam
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    44
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    18 days ago

    Gatekeepers are the fucking worst. Every time I start reading up on something there’s always a handful of miserable condescending shitheads being nasty to people because they’re 'not ‘doing it right.’

    Most vegan threads I come across usually has some of these, insulting anyone that’s not 100% on board even if they’re trying to get into it. Audiophiles are pretty much on the same level as hardcore vegans when it comes to being obnoxious (recently saw someone ask why the op was bothering setting up a music system if they didn’t have thousands of dollars to spare, for example). Linux users on support threads is a coin flip of whether they’ll be helpful or insulting.

    Let people ease into things, stop demanding perfection right out of the gates!


  • It’s always fun when there’s a GUI tool for something (in my case, trying to set up wireguard with gnome) that just doesn’t work, and all the posts online about it just say “yeah that’s literally never worked, here’s the cli command”

    Or colour profiles for your monitor in Wayland, you can change them in the gui but nothing will ever apply.

    I find myself having trust issues with Linux GUI tools as actually functioning seems to be optional. But the switches sure look pretty…


  • DiabolicalBird@lemmy.catoFediverse@lemmy.worldwe need more users
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    57
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 month ago

    From my own experience with Lemmy, I can absolutely see why it’s declining.

    Lemmy is packed full of miserable people constantly calling for violence. 90% of the feed is packed full of US politics, it doesn’t matter how many filters I use I still see that greasy orange cunt’s face every time I open Lemmy.

    The amount of hostility towards outsiders just getting into Lemmy is astounding, and I’ve absolutely seen the whole “quality over quantity” crap that only drives people away from the platform. The IT tech snobbery is also incredibly offputting to people who aren’t tech enthusiests.

    In short, Lemmy has a toxic shithead problem that a platform this small can’t afford if it wants to survive long term.



  • So, your solution to “ease onboarding” is to give newcomers more work? For a platform with far less content that’s already confusing them with just signing up, let alone figuring out transfering or self hosting?

    I think you VASTLY overestimate how many fucks people have to give, and also how tech literate the average person is. The average person can barely figure out how to change their web browser, and most really don’t care about the awful shit big companies do.

    This idea of yours would drive engagement through the floor and a respectable distance into the Earth’s crust.

    Ease of use should be the #1 consideration when it comes to onboarding people to something.






  • In my case it’s because I can’t get hardware that supports it without paying a fortune for importing. The other option is ancient hardware that most likely has a cooked battery that I’d have to hunt for in a used market.

    Then there’s the lack of VoLTE support on a lot of models which is becoming a non-starter as carriers are taking down the 3G towers.

    That’s before I’ve even gotten to try the software which I’m not hearing great things about.

    It’s not popular because it’s an enthusiast niche at best. Linux mobile needs more time in the oven before it’s ready, by my measurement another couple of decades.



  • I’ve been using Nobara for a long time now, before that I was on Debian, before that Kubuntu. I’ve tried both Wayland and X11 on Nobara until they fully switched to Wayland, they both had issues.

    I tried several variations on getting a dock to work, but even organizing the top bar or editing any of the panels at all was causing glitches and crashes. After a certain point I said fuck it and tried Gnome, my problems went away and it only took a few extensions to get it where I wanted. Been more stable since the switch so I haven’t been inclined to go back myself.



  • I tried version 6 last, the customization kept crashing the desktop, it didn’t like me messing with the panels at all. I just wanted a top bar and a dock.

    I’ve recently installed the latest version for my fiance who is transitioning from Windows. Immediately there was a small problem with the app menu leaving graphical artifacts on the panel when the menu got closed (it was fixed by increasing the animation speed a bunch somehow?).

    After a certain point I gave up and moved on, I can’t agree that it’s as polished as Gnome from my personal experience with the two. But as always, user experience may vary. My experience with KDE seems to be a minority which is good for everyone else lol


  • DiabolicalBird@lemmy.catolinuxmemes@lemmy.worldIt's that time again
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    5 months ago

    We all got choices, that’s what I like about Linux. KDE seems to run great for most people, for me it always seems to bug out and act super janky (the panel editor in particular would bug out and crash constantly, I could never get the damn thing to where I liked it). If it was more stable for me I’d probably use it, I love customizing my system. I’ve tried making it work a few times, never seems to click.

    GNOME’s extensions may break on updates from time to time but my day to day experience with it is much nicer. While more rigid it’s a lot more polished and doesn’t crash out on me just using the interface. I like the layout of it. I’m glad KDE works for so many of you guys, but I’ll stick with GNOME until a better option comes around.

    That said, if anyone has a better suggestion for a desktop environment I’m all ears.


  • I’m well aware of the statistics. Doesn’t mean I want to go directly to places where highly unstable people congregate. “Cars kill more people so the meth dens are safer” isn’t a great sales pitch. My point is that quality of transit is dependant on where you live and isn’t always the magical solution it’s painted as, as much as I wish it was.