Hahaha… I love that DEVO song, plus the video!
Thank you for that.

At the same, I also love Weird Al. And yet, that was one of the truly WORST songs I’ve ever heard of his, oh dear… XD

Whoa! That list looks interesting, maybe with some Dr. Demento vibes…?

I’ll be wading in to it! :D
Thank you, NEMO, thank you…

Holy hell, that was both hilarious and awesome!

Also, that caused me to remember that one Eddie Vedder tune. (now added to the list, above)

Maybe in some technical or traditional sense, but let’s not forget that most species are named almost completely arbitrarily in the first place, sometimes simply echoing their finder’s own name.

Meanwhile, for all our ‘great gifts of sapience,’ in the end we are proving to be the most foolish and self-destructive of our ape cousins (and other kin) by a veritably planet-sized margin.

30 more of these:
https://www.boredpanda.com/ridiculous-take-on-life-comics-bradtjonas/

I’m loving these, so far… XD

I sometimes play “Beneath Apple Manor” (1978) and similar-era games via Apple emulator. Believe it or not, it’s a “roguelike” that actually predated Epyx’ Rogue (1980) and NetHack (1987).

But I’m also thankful that Epyx’ Rogue happened to become used for the overall genre name. “BeneathAppleManorLike” is just too much of a mouthful!

So I took 5$ and tossed it in her bag…

I kinda wish you’d take another $5 and toss it in to finding a better user name.

What I don’t get is why it took them decades to figure this out.

Well that’s how it works with just about everything in high-tech capitalism. Enterprise & profits first, downstream and knock-on effects examined later. Just look at plastics, nicotine, pesticides, etc etc.

I also tend to think that sorbitol and other replacements aren’t necessarily terrible in themselves, but look at the way they’re used-- a typical diet drink / food item doesn’t attempt to lower overall sweetness levels, it attempts to replace almost 100% of the sweetness with the artificial product, killing much of the point of doing so.

The good news is that consumers can be trained and untrained over time to crave excess sugars, salt, fat, fried food, etc. So you can reprogram your tastes over time, and get used to vastly lower quantities of unhealthy substances. For example, I used to drink and get normalised upon store-bought iced teas, which contain drastic amounts of sucrose / corn syrup. I just make it myself now, using a single packet of sucralose and a single sugar cube (15 kcals) in about 28fl oz brewed tea (Gatorade bottle). It took time, but it tastes perfectly sweet now, to me.

Lol… oh dear.

Took me less than 5sec to discover that he’s a legit artist, with a WP page.

I tend to feel the same, but those suckers certainly know their broad audience.

Don’t forget loads of salt!

Like-- every step of the way, fast food places have an opportunity to aim for ‘healthier’ or ‘more delicious’ choices, overwhelmingly with profit-making in mind. That’s the main thing to keep in mind.

IIRC, McD’s and various other chains even design venting and such to get the smell of the cooking food (chemically enhanced) in to the surrounding area. You know, so that more people can pay a fortune to get a food rush that doubles as a health disaster.

Thanks, AI slop.

Would it help if I slammed it EXTRA-HARD, my lil’ cutey…?

Obviously S&G had nothing of the sort, it didnt exist at the time.

Of course it did. Just as I referred to as “manual-tune” in my original comment. George Martin was FAMOUS for that stuff, but I tend to think he wasn’t the first.

Me, I like people who can make brave, interesting points in life, but I also don’t value much people who have no idea WTF they’re talking about, literally without a shred of evidence to back up their nonsense.

Older people (30+)

LOLolol…

I mean, you’re kind of lifting my point in to a broader area that I wasn’t speaking to at the time.

Of course I agree with all that you said. But I was talking strictly in the context of OP’s framework.

You’ve made no real case that it’s used in any significant way upon any significant music I know of.

Used on modern pop? Of course it is. All over the place. Which is like saying that fast food and cold cuts contain a bunch of artificial stuff that enhances shelf life, flavor. We all know that, and most people know that fast food and cold cuts are the very bottom tier of food, despite the brief rush.

You can bet your bippy that Simon & Garfunkel never needed no auto-tune gimmicks to perform “The Sound of Silence.” Altho extra orchestration indeed helped.

You haven’t heard a song NOT using it since at least 1998.

I have a very hard time believing that, unless of course sound engineers have been doing “manual-tune” for ages and ages (see below). Regardless, loads of singers who perform in front of others clearly have the ability to sing a song in a variety of ways depending on mood, venue, audience, occasion, etc. In short-- good singers REALLY ARE that talented, generally with excellent pitch, and don’t need assistance in something as basic as singing notes close enough to pitch-perfect without the need to be absolutely perfect.

Just look at how improv singers can do so well, or people performing in front of judges, or opera and opera-style singers performing in concert halls, like Charlotte Church.

I would guess the one argument of yours that holds some water is with flawed singers who are otherwise good, but have chronic problems hitting close-enough pitch, or really good singers trying to perform songs slightly outside of their range. Stuff like that…

Sure, just like the Blazing Saddles scene.

In reality, they do most of their talking via pheromones, almost like a form of telepathy.