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picking his chosen name from a soap opera sounds super cringe and childish. It’s like naming yourself Sonic. He should just pick a normal name that a normal person would have

I couldn’t imagine having this opinion, lol. If someone I don’t know changed their last name to “Wayne,” I truly couldn’t give a fuck less one way or the other. I couldn’t imagine having a strong opinion on what someone else does with their body and name—especially if I don’t know this person.

And changing your last name to “Carrington” is not the same thing as changing your name to “Sonic.” You said to change it to a normal name, but Carrington is a normal name. Do you know how many Waynes, Kents, or Starks there are? There is literally an actor named “Oliver Stark.” No one cares that he happens to share a name with Iron Man, so your point makes zero sense.

“at the very least, pick a normal name that doesn’t come from a soap opera.”

Again, “Carrington” is a normal name. Just because a fictional character has that last name doesn’t mean that last name is somehow “not normal.” That is illogical and makes no sense. By this logic, the names “Kent,” “Bruce,” and “Peter” are not normal, and no one should name their kids these names.

And Dynasty is a show no one really remembers. It was a soap opera from the ’80s, got rebooted in 2017, and then ended in 2022. No one really cares about the show; it wasn’t that popular. The actors and actresses who were in the show are B-List celebrities at best. If he went around saying, “My name is [insert first name] Carrington,” most people would not care, and some of them might be like, “Oh, those characters from that old soap opera had that name too,” and then keep it moving.

Truly, no one gives a fuck about other people this much to care. Your comparison to “Sonic” makes zero sense whatsoever because that name is specifically tied to an iconic character and a fast-food place, so that name is obviously weird and obscure. “Carrington” is a normal name a lot of people have.

And again, what if he really likes it? Should he just keep his last name as it is and be miserable? What’s the point of changing it to something you don’t really like anyway?

I can guarantee you that you never even heard of the show Dynasty until this post, which further proves my point. And again, by this logic, people with the names “Alvin” and “Peter” should go and legally change their names since they share them with fictional characters—it’s not “normal,” right?

Since you all are too fucking stupid to know what I mean, 200k a year of money finances income, you fucking idiot. (I desperately want to use the R-word because it’s justified here.)

Since you all are too fucking stupid to know what I mean, 200k a year of money finances income, you fucking idiot. (I desperately want to use the R-word because it’s justified here.)

Changing your name in order to disassociate yourself from someone (especially to a name from a TV show you have no connection to) is also disrespectful

How is that “disrespectful”? In what way is that “disrespectful”? And if someone is a big fan of Iron man hates his current last name and wants to change it to “Stark” why shouldn’t he.

This is literally the dumbest comment I have ever read.

“no kid in his twenties is watching a stupid nighttime soap opera from the 80’s”

Again, you are making a strong assumption here. First of all, the 80s soap opera was rebooted in 2017 on The CW. He could have watched the 2017 version, then watched the 80s version. Even if it was never rebooted, if this ‘kid in his 20s’ is super into film, TV, and movies, then yeah, he might watch soap operas. Non-fans of film might not, but if you are a real fan, you will.

“let alone waiting to change his last name to the douchebags from that show.”

Again, you are making a lot of assumptions here, which is weird and stupid. Considering (let’s assume this story is true), if he likes their last name and he truly doesn’t like or is disgusted with the current last name he has, then why wouldn’t he want to change it?

This is basically what you just said:

Post: My son hates their last name and wants to change his last name to ‘Stark.’ Iron Man is his favorite character.

Your comment: “This story is bullshit. No 22-year-old likes Marvel or superhero stuff. I don’t know this for certain, but I’m just going to make my own assumption and guess that no 22-year-old male likes superhero stuff, let alone is willing to change his last name to a character. I don’t know this dude, I’ve never met him, and he wouldn’t piss on me if I were on fire, but I’m just going to assume because…”

define with concise and quantifiable metrics for what constitutes a real fan of DC

Let’s look at some arguments against Batman.

“He beats up poor people.”

You could, again, say this about any rich superhero, but Batman doesn’t “beat up poor people.” Most of the people he fights are rich and wealthy crime lords who hurt innocent people in his city. That’s what the entire Court of Owls storyline is about. And even if the criminals are poor, these are still people who are going out of their way to choose to rape, kill, and maim people. The criminals who are criminals because they are poor—Batman gives them tons of job opportunities.

If someone is a pimp who pimps out underage girls, and is a rapist, an assassin, or a gang leader, should we not stop them because “they are poor”? Especially when they make so much money they could retire or go legit?

“He beats up the mentally ill.”

Again, Joker is doing what he’s doing because he wants to, and this is an insult to mentally ill people, because there are tons of mentally ill people who choose not to commit evil acts and want to treat their mental illness. Batman’s rogues gallery is not—and again, most supervillains are mentally ill—so this point is stupid.

“He recruits children.”

Teen Titans—the sidekicks of damn near every League member. And then they might say, “Well, they have powers.” They are still fighting threats that can kill them. Also, by this argument, you’re basically saying a teen should not be a superhero because he has no powers.

“Why doesn’t he use his wealth to help Gotham?”

Literally every comic, animated show, and movie shows he’s using his wealth to help Gotham.

A real fan of DC does not make these stupid arguments because they know it’s objectively false.

your opinions don’t ALWAYS correspond with reality.

If you don’t have knowledge of something, then you can’t really discuss it. Someone can’t and shouldn’t talk about Israel vs. Palestine if they don’t know anything about the history of the conflict.

And I think there are objectively some things that make you a fan of something, especially when most arguments against Batman are false. If you read one issue of one comic, or watch ONE episode—hell, HALF an episode—of Batman, how can you claim to be a fan of something, yet know NOTHING about the character outside of surface-level stuff?

Do I like Mario? Sure. Do I like his games? Sure. Did I like the movie? Yeah. Did I like the second one? No, not really. Am I a fan of Mario? No. Do I like it? Sure—but I don’t know much about the character to say I’m a fan. I can at least admit it.

Do I like Star Trek? Yes. Am I a ‘Trekkie’? No, because I only really like the three Star Trek movies with Chris Pine, the Original Series, and TNG and Voyager—and that’s it. So I’m not a ‘fan,’ and it would be disingenuous for someone to say, ‘you aren’t a Trekkie or a real Mario fan,’ and then for me to get offended when I genuinely am not.

“never read a comic” part though just hurts any argument.

Actually, no, it doesn’t hurt any argument, and I will prove it to you.

Let’s look at some arguments against Batman.

“He beats up poor people.”

You could, again, say this about any rich superhero, but Batman doesn’t “beat up poor people.” Most of the people he fights are rich and wealthy crime lords who hurt innocent people in his city. That’s what the entire Court of Owls storyline is about. And even if the criminals are poor, these are still people who are going out of their way to choose to rape, kill, and maim people. The criminals who are criminals because they are poor—Batman gives them tons of job opportunities.

If someone is a pimp who pimps out underage girls, and is a rapist, an assassin, or a gang leader, should we not stop them because “they are poor”? Especially when they make so much money they could retire or go legit?

“He beats up the mentally ill.”

Again, Joker is doing what he’s doing because he wants to, and this is an insult to mentally ill people, because there are tons of mentally ill people who choose not to commit evil acts and want to treat their mental illness. Batman’s rogues gallery is not—and again, most supervillains are mentally ill—so this point is stupid.

“He recruits children.”

Teen Titans—the sidekicks of damn near every League member. And then they might say, “Well, they have powers.” They are still fighting threats that can kill them. Also, by this argument, you’re basically saying a teen should not be a superhero because he has no powers.

“Why doesn’t he use his wealth to help Gotham?”

Literally every comic, animated show, and movie shows he’s using his wealth to help Gotham.

People who use these arguments literally have not read a comic, nor are they Batman or DC/Marvel fans in general.

“probably just want to be included in the discussion”

If you have no real knowledge of something you can’t discuss it.

they have jobs

What jobs do they have?

The people in my previous post have a problem with Batman being a billionaire and recruiting kids. If you were a real fan, you would suspend disbelief and realize it’s a fictional story. We watch Law & Order because they live in a world where cops actually care about victims, and we want to live in a world where cops are reformed and act like them. We are aware that it’s unrealistic, but we suspend disbelief.

Batman being rich—same with Iron Man—is just a part of the character, so suspend disbelief. Robin and Batgirl have been a part of Batman lore for centuries. The reason I say they aren’t real fans is because they aren’t—they hop on the Batman bandwagon hate train because it’s popular. That’s it.

They don’t have this same criticism for Green Arrow, Blue Beetle, Emma Frost, Kate Bishop, Swordsman, Sunspot, and every other rich superhero. They don’t have a problem with the rest of the league that recruits children as sidekicks. If you don’t like Batman because he’s rich and has a sidekick, that’s fine—but extend that same level of dislike to every other rich superhero. That’s all—be consistent.

If you are a real fan and have an issue with Batman, then I would have to assume this same argument applies to the characters I just mentioned.

In Absolute Batman, Bruce isn’t rich—he’s a working-class construction worker. And for an “altering what-if” story, that’s fine. But you still have to explain some things, because him being “poor” plays no part in the story at all. He still has gadgets, a Batmobile, a dump truck, etc. He never struggles with money, and Martha is still alive. So again, please explain: how does he have all this equipment if he’s not wealthy? And why be Batman if his mom is alive? Please explain this.

How about you try and engage in a good faith argument?

Why?

Actually, I kind of do. If you don’t like politics, then why comment on it? If you don’t care about Palestine or Palestinians, then why engage with it? If you aren’t a fan of Batman or DC, then why comment under all my comments? You are free to leave.

I’m not allowed to engage because I don’t want to tell you my opinion on Batman?

This entire discussion is about Batman, and maybe to some extent other superheroes. Why would I (an actual Batman fan) engage in a discussion about Batman with someone who’s not a fan? If you aren’t a real fan, why engage in this discussion at all?

‘I’m not allowed to engage because I don’t want to tell you my opinion on Batman?’ This whole discussion is about Batman. This post I wrote is about fucking Batman. It would be like having a political discussion and then me saying, ‘Well, I don’t want to give my opinions on the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, or explain my views.’ Okay, then why talk politics?

Then why engage then? Are you fan or no? If not then block me and get off my page.