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  • Talentless Sculptor@lemmy.worldBanned from communityOPtoCommunism@lemmy.ml•Best example of large scale success?
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    4 months ago

    Oh you read and took Orwell seriously. My condolences.

    Seriously insofar as I could elucidate that he had seen recurring themes in communist and socialist societal experiments.

    Aside from that what human drive to compete? You think humans have some magical essence that makes us simply vessels of greed/competition?

    Our genes are not magical. Some humans are more competitive, but all cultures nd most species on the plnet show signs of competition for something.

    No.

    Yes.

    Humans are greedy and competitive because we live under a system that not only rewards but necessitates it.

    No.

    If you wish to understand the communist position on things you need to do away with your idealist understanding of the world and apply a proper materialist analysis instead.

    What does that mean? Do I need to unlearn science and how to think about the world scientifically?



  • Talentless Sculptor@lemmy.worldBanned from communityOPtoCommunism@lemmy.ml•Best example of large scale success?
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    The famine during the great leap forward wasn’t due to communist policy though? It was due to China being a backward country thanks to the century of humiliation (caused by capitalism) leading to lacking the necessary technical knowledge (there’s a reason it was the last famine China ever had).

    No, this isn’t accurate. Only pro-communist propaganda tries to downplay the horrendous Maoist agricultural policies and general economic mismanagement.

    The actual reasons for the famine in reality were natural causes mixed with agricultural plans made with poor agronomic knowledge due to the backwardness of the country coming from the century of humiliation and a degree of poor reporting tradition held over from the feudal and landlord years.

    So the communists played no part in it?

    Also capitalism isn’t when there is trade or when there is markets.

    True, but you can’t have markets and trade under communism.

    The Chinese Socialist market economy is exactly that socialist,

    The Democratic people’s Republic of Korea is exactly that…

    and the poverty gains during reform and opening up were built on the foundation created by Chairman Mao and would have otherwise been impossible.

    Source?

    You could also look at your question in reverse, when the USSR transitioned to capitalism poverty skyrocketed, life expectancy plunged and by every metric human suffering increased.

    Really? Just like how infant mortality spiked when Tsarist Russia was taken over by the communists?

    (P.s. you really shouldn’t use Wikipedia for information on China especially regarding political or sensitive events you’d get an equally honest answer if you asked the CIA)

    Be more paranoid please.









  • Not in this situation, this is why people say “Jew is both a religion and an ethnicity!!!” when talking about European “Jews”: because many/most of them are and self-identify as atheist, they just mean they have European ancestry that at some point actually believed and don’t wanna let go of that identity label for whatever reason. I guess it’s very American? Haven’t we all heard of them being “Italian” because someone in their lineage at some point came from Italy but today they eat spaghetti with ketchup?

    Are you saying that Jews as a religious group do not exist and are not persecuted because a lot of ethnic Jews are atheist?

    And I wouldn’t say it’s a competition

    Good.

    but when the biggest guns and bombs are consistently aimed and dropped on the same group, and it’s not the one people keep talking about, something is fishy.

    Good thing this isn’t happening then. We are CONSTANTLY, talking about Palestine. YOU were the one who said “Also, the only religious group I ever see actually be persecuted/harassed is Muslims, lol,”. Do you agree that this is false?







  • Where did you mention that.

    In a separate comment about Switzerland specifically.

    And don’t tell me it is because our immigration system is somehow strict.

    Switzerland’s is.

    I can move around Europe with a high likelyhood that nobody ever checks who I am.

    Switzerland is not in the EU. Even so, “In Switzerland, 69.7% of the prison population did not have Swiss citizenship, compared to 22.1% of total resident population (as of 2008).”

    “In 2010, a statistic was published which listed delinquency by nationality (based on 2009 data). To avoid distortions due to demographic structure, only the male population aged between 18 and 34 was considered for each group. From the study, it became clear that crime rate is highly correlated on the country of origin of the various migrant groups. Thus, immigrants from Germany, France and Austria had a significantly lower crime rate than Swiss citizens (60% to 80%), while immigrants from Angola, Nigeria and Algeria had a crime rate of above 600% of that of Swiss population. In between these extremes were immigrants from Former Yugoslavia, with crime rates of between 210% and 300% of the Swiss value.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Switzerland#Crime_rates