OP is about people who hate your cause giving you advice

Yes, and the person I replied to is about how sometimes we need to take advice to communicate better. I simply agreed by saying assuming the worst of all criticism (using the same phrasing as the OP, because it’s applicable to more than just concern trolls) is not conductive to functional communication.

You have twisted that in your own head to be “criticism is from people who hate me”.

No, you’ve inferred that. I don’t think the OP meant that, but what they said could very easily be used that way, which is why I borrowed the phrasing. Because there are absolutely people that think that way.

By strawmanning OP into that position (cause, again, that’s not what they’re saying)

But that is the actual wording of the post. Someone gives criticism -> they hate you and your cause. OP may only specifically be thinking about concern trolls, but that is a rationale one can use to dismiss all criticism, which is what I asserted to be counterproductive.

you force your interpretation of their words to juxtapose against your implied position, creating the false dichotomy. You either agree with OP that all critiques come from haters so you should ignore them all, or you don’t

I think you’re the one forcing an interpretation here, and that’s still not a dichotomy. Even if I accused OP of saying all criticism is from haters, I’m not advocating listening to all criticism, just to not make assumptions.

This doesn’t mean that Hasan Piker should take to heart the criticism that Fox News loves to heap on him, cause they want to see him fail. Does that make sense?

Of course it does, and it fits entirely within what I’ve said. If you want to continue this analogy, my reply says “don’t assume everyone criticizing Hasan is Fox News”

I never said, or implied, that OP is applying “hates you and your cause” to all criticism, just that some people do, and it should be avoided.

If you think my statement is unspecific and implies that of OP, fair enough, but then you should also accept that the OP is unspecific enough be misapplied to all criticism.

but your emphasis turns the position from “we do also need to be open to criticism” to “those who agree with OP apply this advice to all critics”

I don’t think you understood what I said. It’s not a dichotomy at all

You twisted it into “all criticism is haters, who you should never listen to”.

That’s the implication of the OP. Someone says this isn’t helpful -> they hate you and what you believe in. If you disagree with that, congrats we agree.

Which then implies the other position is to be open to all criticism, thus the false dichotomy.

You inferred that, I didn’t imply that; my statement had no either-or. It’s really the same message. I never said anything about accepting all criticism or rejecting all criticism, the dilemma is in your head. The meaning behind what I said is “don’t assume the worst of criticism,” you are twisting that into whatever you came up with.

What false dichotomy?

Yeah, assuming everyone with criticism Hates You and Your Cause is not very productive.

he used to be an imperial flight cadet, where surely there was propaganda making the Jedi seem misguided and unimpressive

Then he should be able to remember them at least

But we still know that Al Qaeda existed 25 years after 9/11

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look I just think George made some mistakes with the prequels

Out in the outer rim, most people probably haven’t seen a jedi and they would seem a lot more like fairy tales

Anakin was able to spot one instantly, and he was a slave on a planet so divorced from the Republic that they didn’t even take credits.

Han acknowledging the Jedi as a fairy tale would be an improvement, but in A New Hope he just straight up says “I’ve been all over the galaxy and never heard of any shit like that”

You don’t need to see a Jedi to know that they are real though

But even little Ani on backwater Tattooine knew about them, it doesn’t add up.

It still makes no sense for the Jedi to be forgotten in the same time. Han Solo, a traveling pilot who is older than the Empire, speaks of the famous galaxy wide peacekeepers like they’re a fairy tale.

Brother you are literally stalking me for months because you think I’m a lib, you need to stop projecting.

Yeah, stalking users would be really pathetic, wouldn’t it? Stay mad

All it needs is a good text editor to be complete.

wow you’re such a provocateur, so edgy

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