I’m not sure if you got to see their comments before they were deleted, but I recall their comment being a bit weirder than that. Things like “sometimes my family forgets to pick their wet towels off the floor. What happens if you add a gun to that?”.

As the second part of your comment, yeah I see your point. That being said, the rules of gun safety aren’t as huge of a hurdle as people seem to think they are. I think it’s more that some people are repelled by any form of friction when starting a new activity.

if you’re using F-Droid it’ll take a little longer to release, apparently.

Thanks for the info! I was wondering why I couldn’t find it on there this morning

Given how nonsensical your first comment was, I don’t think you had a point

I mean if someone makes death threats to someone else they should absolutely have their guns taken away.

The thing is, this isn’t shown in the original post. Also, making death threats on its own is illegal, red flag laws aren’t required if the person making the report has proof.

Said victim could even get a restraining order if they were worried about violence, which won’t completely assure safety but will go down a process that actually uses due process and doesn’t violate anyone’s rights.

I don’t understand how you justify in your head adding guns into any of those situations you listed.

If you own guns, you’re supposed to have a secure way to store them. Especially if you have kids. While some people do leave guns sitting around the house, that is strongly discouraged.

You’re supposed to keep guns inside a safe unless you’re about to use it such as going to a range or hunting. And best practice is to keep ammo secured in a separate safe as an extra measure. And when you are handling a gun, you always check if it’s loaded and follow the 4 rules of gun safety

Fair enough

The war in Afghanistan went on for 20 years, with Iraq and Vietnam lasting not much less. And once the US military left all of those countries, all of the regimes that the US put into place fell apart relatively quickly.

In what universe are those conditions a win? In what universe are they even a tie?!?

I know you’re just parroting an argument you’ve seen written by someone else before. Maybe it’s because of patriotism. Maybe it’s because of pride and not wanting to admit defeat. Maybe it’s something else. Regardless, I ask that you take a step back and actually think about your comment logically.

Resorting to calling me a Nazi now? Thanks for telling me that you have no actual counterargument.

The Pro-Choice argument is one of bodily autonomy. If people have the right to refuse the use of their organs to save others after they are dead, then everyone should also have the right to refuse the same while they are alive.

Not only that, bans on abortion adds red tape to many procedures necessary to keep the mother alive, incpuding in situations where the fetus isn’t viable. If the fetus dies in the womb and the mother doesn’t naturally expel it, she needs an abortion ot it’ll rot and kill here. If the zygote never fully makes it to the uterus and starts developing inside the ovarian tubes, it needs to be aborted or it will kill both the mother and the fetus.

Making it harder for pregnant women to gain access to these procedures is needlessly and ridiculously cruel.

And let’s also discuss your Nazi claims: I’m pro-workers right, pro-consumer rights, pro-privacy. I think we need to increase social welfare services to help the most vulnerable of us, including some form of universal healthcare. But I’m a Nazi simply because I support the 2nd ammendment? Yeah, that bullshit. You aren’t worth wasting more of my time on.

Fighting on their own territory where they already have all their bases and equipment is not going to end the same way.

You’re forgetting that it’s also where most of the military’s supplies come from. That means their sources are more vulnerable as well

This. Pro-life supporters don’t care if the mother dies. Hell, corpses get more rights than pregnant women, because at least people can refuse to be organ donors

Look up overall crime statistics for both countries that restrict firearm access and those who don’t. You’ll find that overall violent crime ends up being proportional to the countries’ midi coefficient (a measurement of economic inequality). Firearm availability mainly changes the proportion of violent crimes involving firearms vs overall violent crime.

Like I said, most of the statistics you see are cherry-picked to give an overly simplistic view of crime to distract from the fact that economic inequality is a huge correlating factor

but I’m 100% on board with interventions for taking guns away for mental health crises, and restrictions on those found by a court to have engaged in domestic violence.

The issue with red flag laws is that they completely bypass this. When the police recieve a report, they end up seizing the guns without any due process, and the owners has to sue to get them back.

FYI, women are just as capable of being terrible people as men are

The comments here are a good example of how the gun control movement is the left-wing counterpart to the pro-life movement. It’s origin lies in emotion, not reason. It’s filled with fallacious arguements and when that fails to convince someone, the movement tends to move towards snarky comments and outright hostility.

Evem those that are trying to be reasonable by drawing conclusions based on data almost always are using cherry-picked statistics that was fed by those trying to manipulate them.

You’re forgetting that the US lost 3 wars to guerilla tactics, 2 of those in the last decade

Gun ownership =/= fascism

The fact that you can’t argue the VGE’s involvement or anything other than a word’s definition really doesn’t make you look like you have a strong case here lol.

So you’re just ignoring all the other points I made earlier? On top of refusing to acknowledge that you don’t know what words you’re using?

Concise is synonymous with “to the point”.

No. The word you are looking for is “succinct”. You’re doubling down harder than PirateGames at this point, and with you including some egotistical snark at the end of every comment and claiming that you can’t possibly be wrong just further demonstrates that you’re a walking example of Dunning-Krüger syndrome with entitlement issues.

Get over yourself. Instead of petulantly whining about a petition on the internet, go and do something actually productive with your life.

Tbf, Collective Shout group is actually Australian

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concise

Concise:

marked by brevity of expression or statement : free from all elaboration and superfluous detail

Aka, “short”.

The petition absolutely is ‘concise’. You just have no idea what that word means.

Using fancy words in an argument only works if you actually know what those words mean.

Not only that, a long petition containing lots of details has its own drawbacks. For one, fewer people will read it and/or understand it, which will make it easier for detractors to confuse the general public with misinformation.

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