First link is Zionist island state propaganda. Taking seriously any accusation that the British Government makes about human right abuses is absolutely laughable given the constant genocide denial propaganda they’ve engaged in.
Second link, from the OHCHR, provides this evidence: “The experts said they have received credible information that detainees from ethnic, linguistic or religious minorities may be forcibly subjected to blood tests and […] ultrasound and x-rays”. This is all evidence provided.
Third link is two alleged “human trafficking experts” simply talking in an Irish institution, again, not bringing any evidence whatsoever.
All the accusations are also based off Falun Gong, a literal fucking cult in China that makes propaganda together with western institutions. It would be akin to China going to the fucking Jehovah Witnesses to make claims of patient right violations when they force blood transfusions on otherwise dying children despite their parents’ beliefs.
Bring me independent journalistic work as evidence, with concrete pictures, videos or confirmed such cases.
Your level of brainwashing or bad faith is frightening but in addition to pointing out that your comments on the above sources are largely incorrect, I leave you with a 1994 Human Rights Watch report that details primary source documents, often from the CCP. https://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/china1/china_948.htm#_1_3
You can also find other HRW reports, published academic articles and government and NGO reports listed at endtransplantabuse.org
I’m going to block you now.
“I’m unable to find journalistic independent reports in contemporary China or any kind of material evidence, so here’s a report from over 30 years ago. You’re totally brainwashed by not believing western Zionist media, scary”
Independent journalistic work providing material evidence of widespread such cases.
Things that are not independent journalistic work: Falun Gong (cult) claims, western political institution or individual politician claims / western tribunal or institutional hearing / western state propaganda apparatus (state and private media e.g. BBC, CNN) claims without serious material evidence (photographs and video pre-AI times, proof of judicial cases to victims or their families or lawyers) / anonymous interviews
Lmao, so nothing from the main victims, nothing from individuals, nothing from big news agencies, nothing from the last 5 years (or anything you could just baselessly claim is AI)
So as I expected you’re already aware of the evidence that’s available of this, but just refuse to believe it and then backfill whatever random excuse you want in order to justify ignoring the evidence. And pretty much the only evidence you would accept is a statement from the CCP themselves.
If by “the actual victims” you mean “US-funded cult Falun Gong”
nothing from individuals
“Eye-watering testimonies” (AKA atrocity propaganda) aren’t evidence of anything, they’ve been used time and time again by western institutions to justify horrifying military invasion, such as the case with Nayirah’s testimony. Want good evidence by individuals? Go to TikTok right now (preferably outside the USl and go find the thousand videos of actual violence against Palestinians carried out by themselves or by independent journalists.
nothing from big news agencies,
Western* big news agencies without material evidence behind it. Would you trust a Russia Today news segment on Ukrainians harvesting organs from Russian prisoners based on personal testimonies by Russian soldiers?
If by “the actual victims” you mean “US-funded cult Falun Gong”
And what are you basing that off? Do you have any independent journalistic sources for this that aren’t linked to CCP propaganda, or biased testimonies, or individual politicians, or AI, or fake witness testimonials?
“Having the common desire to restore and protect the fundamental rights of Falun Gong practitioners, they turned for advice to a long-time champion of human rights issues, former U.S. Ambassador Mark Palmer, who has been following the plight of Falun Gong practitioners. At the time, Ambassador Palmer was the Vice-Chairman of the Board for Freedom House, and he still serves on that board. Among his many other achievements, Ambassador Palmer co-founded of the National Endowment for Democracy”
The Falun Gong also happily runs pro-Trump media according to Wikipedia: “The performance arts group Shen Yun and the media organization The Epoch Times are the major outreach organizations of Falun Gong.[5] Both promote the spiritual and political teachings of Falun Gong. They and a variety of other organizations such as New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD) operate as extensions of Falun Gong. These extensions promote the new religious movement and its teachings. In the case of The Epoch Times, they also promote conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccine misinformation and far-right politics in both Europe and the United States. Around the time of the 2016 United States presidential election, The Epoch Times began running articles supportive of Donald Trump and critical of his opponents. Falun Gong extensions have also been active in promoting the European radical RIGHT”
THESE are the people I’m calling “FOX News” on my original fucking comment.
Lmfao. Now we have FOX News on Lemmy or what? “THEY’RE EATING THE CATS AND THE DOGS” level shit
???
China’s organ harvesting programs is pretty well known?
Yeah? Where’s the evidence for it then?
https://www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l4287 https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2021/06/china-un-human-rights-experts-alarmed-organ-harvesting-allegations https://www.irishtimes.com/news/china-murdering-falun-gong-members-for-organ-harvesting-1.1459522
Literal Fox News-level propaganda.
First link is Zionist island state propaganda. Taking seriously any accusation that the British Government makes about human right abuses is absolutely laughable given the constant genocide denial propaganda they’ve engaged in.
Second link, from the OHCHR, provides this evidence: “The experts said they have received credible information that detainees from ethnic, linguistic or religious minorities may be forcibly subjected to blood tests and […] ultrasound and x-rays”. This is all evidence provided.
Third link is two alleged “human trafficking experts” simply talking in an Irish institution, again, not bringing any evidence whatsoever.
All the accusations are also based off Falun Gong, a literal fucking cult in China that makes propaganda together with western institutions. It would be akin to China going to the fucking Jehovah Witnesses to make claims of patient right violations when they force blood transfusions on otherwise dying children despite their parents’ beliefs.
Bring me independent journalistic work as evidence, with concrete pictures, videos or confirmed such cases.
Your level of brainwashing or bad faith is frightening but in addition to pointing out that your comments on the above sources are largely incorrect, I leave you with a 1994 Human Rights Watch report that details primary source documents, often from the CCP. https://www.hrw.org/reports/1994/china1/china_948.htm#_1_3 You can also find other HRW reports, published academic articles and government and NGO reports listed at endtransplantabuse.org I’m going to block you now.
“I’m unable to find journalistic independent reports in contemporary China or any kind of material evidence, so here’s a report from over 30 years ago. You’re totally brainwashed by not believing western Zionist media, scary”
Okay, since I’m more than used to people arguing with me in bad faith in the internet.
Tell me, what evidence would I need to show you in order to change your mind?
Independent journalistic work providing material evidence of widespread such cases.
Things that are not independent journalistic work: Falun Gong (cult) claims, western political institution or individual politician claims / western tribunal or institutional hearing / western state propaganda apparatus (state and private media e.g. BBC, CNN) claims without serious material evidence (photographs and video pre-AI times, proof of judicial cases to victims or their families or lawyers) / anonymous interviews
Lmao, so nothing from the main victims, nothing from individuals, nothing from big news agencies, nothing from the last 5 years (or anything you could just baselessly claim is AI)
So as I expected you’re already aware of the evidence that’s available of this, but just refuse to believe it and then backfill whatever random excuse you want in order to justify ignoring the evidence. And pretty much the only evidence you would accept is a statement from the CCP themselves.
Surprised you’re not a .ml user to be honest.
If by “the actual victims” you mean “US-funded cult Falun Gong”
“Eye-watering testimonies” (AKA atrocity propaganda) aren’t evidence of anything, they’ve been used time and time again by western institutions to justify horrifying military invasion, such as the case with Nayirah’s testimony. Want good evidence by individuals? Go to TikTok right now (preferably outside the USl and go find the thousand videos of actual violence against Palestinians carried out by themselves or by independent journalists.
Western* big news agencies without material evidence behind it. Would you trust a Russia Today news segment on Ukrainians harvesting organs from Russian prisoners based on personal testimonies by Russian soldiers?
And what are you basing that off? Do you have any independent journalistic sources for this that aren’t linked to CCP propaganda, or biased testimonies, or individual politicians, or AI, or fake witness testimonials?
OG Source I found:
They admit it themselves, About Friends of Falun Gong:
“Having the common desire to restore and protect the fundamental rights of Falun Gong practitioners, they turned for advice to a long-time champion of human rights issues, former U.S. Ambassador Mark Palmer, who has been following the plight of Falun Gong practitioners. At the time, Ambassador Palmer was the Vice-Chairman of the Board for Freedom House, and he still serves on that board. Among his many other achievements, Ambassador Palmer co-founded of the National Endowment for Democracy”
The Falun Gong also happily runs pro-Trump media according to Wikipedia: “The performance arts group Shen Yun and the media organization The Epoch Times are the major outreach organizations of Falun Gong.[5] Both promote the spiritual and political teachings of Falun Gong. They and a variety of other organizations such as New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD) operate as extensions of Falun Gong. These extensions promote the new religious movement and its teachings. In the case of The Epoch Times, they also promote conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccine misinformation and far-right politics in both Europe and the United States. Around the time of the 2016 United States presidential election, The Epoch Times began running articles supportive of Donald Trump and critical of his opponents. Falun Gong extensions have also been active in promoting the European radical RIGHT”
THESE are the people I’m calling “FOX News” on my original fucking comment.