• TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      there aren’t any.

      lemmy users just call anyone who disagrees with them slightly on any social or political issue a Nazi. especially if they argue that those issues are complex and multifaceted instead of being a black/white moral issue.

      immigration is complex. what is the ‘correct’ volume and distribution of immigration to allow? most people don’t even attempt to go there because whatever answer you provide will get you called racist. should American immigration policy, for example, favor people from Latin America over people from southeast Asia? there might be good and clear reasons why… but if you dare to argue or explain those reasons you are going to be considered an anti-Asian racist. should certain groups based on wealth/income, religion, language skills, etc be given favorable status over others?

      The current system has it’s winners and losers already. But even acknowledging that is not an issue that most commentators are willing to touch, because they will be pejoratively labeled for doing so.

      When you get into the details of this it’s hard not to get dirty. Thus people only want to talk about it at a very high level where ‘immigration good’ or ‘immigration bad’ is the only discourse.

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        To be honest every issue is becoming like this on Lemmy. Either you parrot the emotionally satisfying far left narrative or you are the enemy. Don’t dare criticize the left from within, or point out complexities in issues. I prefer the left leaning bent of this place to the alternative, but I’m tired of the lack of subtle thought and intellectual honesty. If this is a place for teenagers to cut their teeth on political sentiment, fine, but I suppose I’ll eventually cycle out because that’s not what I came for.

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      7 days ago

      I’m not versed enough in the different instances, but I run into them holistically, particularly in any post or thread that brings up immigration. It’s not nearly as much as Reddit has, but they’re around, they keep masks on for a little longer than in other places but usually it slips after a while.

      You can tell when they’re desperately trying to come up with a way to wedge their hate feelings through the door when they start “just asking questions” about how to integrate cultures and what to do about “too many people coming in.”