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And its still incorrect, cluster bombs are banned by the Convention on Cluster Muntions, which neither Israel or Iran are a party to.
And Israel uses white phosphorus on Gazans which also breaks the Geneva convention so fuck them anyway
silly billy, don’t you not international law doesn’t apply to the IOF
Are 2000 pounder JDAM dropped on gazan civilian buildings more moral than a cluster bomb?
gazan civilian tents
It depends on who sold it to them. If it was one president, centrists love it. If it’s another president, they still love it but have to pretend they don’t so they can blame people to their left.
Sounds like they want this to apply:
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
As true as this is, I will always down vote copypasta.
As true as this is, I will always down vote copypasta.
Err, a famous quote isn’t copypasta.
It literally is exactly that once it gets repeated ad nauseum. People post this exact copypasta with a pinky out like it’s some kind of intellectual hard work. It’s copypasta. This is a hill I’m willing to die on.
It literally is exactly that once it gets repeated ad nauseum.
What’s that? Copypasta goes here?
What happened to “an attacked nation has the right to defend itself”?
that only applies to white people, silly!
Why are we not protected by the agreements we dropped out of so we could easily commit human rights abuse on others?!
Israel apparently…
Build the nuke already please. (For mutually assured destruction reasons so Israel can fuck right off)
While I’d like to see the Iranian people not be subject to Israeli ‘acceptable civilian deaths’ calculus and have their country cucked like Syria/Lybia, I’m also not hype on their government leaders getting that same MAD protection as well, because they absolutely don’t deserve it
Why not? Based on Iran’s history, I think it’s highly improbably they would use nukes offensively. They have every reason to want to develop a nuke. It’s likely that they even have the capacity to make one. Even then, they’ve refused to. All evidence points to the fact that they genuinely want peace. All of their responses to either American or Israeli attacks have been very limited. Even their allies all seem primarily interested in self defense.
While the government may not be to your liking, having nukes is not going to prevent organic resistance. In fact, having a real deterrent against foreign military intervention ensures that the people of Iran can focus on fighting for their personal freedoms and not their very lives. In the past there have been real protest movements in favor of social reform. Now though? Iranians are demonstrating in defiance of Israel and in support of the Iranian state.
To be clear, I’m not exactly a fan of nuclear proliferation. However, in a world where the only country to ever use nukes as a weapon and their genocidal proxy are aiming to obliterate your country, having a nuclear deterrent makes everyone safer.
Iran “seems to want peace” because they throw weapons and money at terrorist organisations to do their dirty work instead. They are not, and have never been interested in peace, they just don’t like having their name associated with the actions, so they hire outside help to murder people instead. With the amount of support through money, weapons and supplies Iran has given the Houthis and Hamas, do you really want them to have access to nuclear weapons?
throw weapons and money at terror groups to so tgeir dirty work.
Damn. Thats crazy. What uniquely islamic atrocity is this? Imagine if a country with nuclear weapons ever did that!
That would be so fucking crazy And unprecedented.
You don’t build nukes to use them
You build nukes so you don’t get nuked
Depending on who “you” is that, you’re mostly right
Stop pretending iran is less rational than the protocols larpers.
Its been, what, 70 years since the last time the protocol larpers dropped a nuke in anger, with thousands of warheads?
You think the Iranian government would wait that long if they had a handful of em?
Yeah, they’re less rational. They’re less trustworthy. And given how untrustworthy even the best governments are, that’s saying something
Iran has been more rational and restrained than Israel and the US. I don’t know what the fuck you’re on about.
The only government evil enough to actually use a nuke has been USA. And the only government evil enough to do it again is USA (or maybe their close friend isntrael) Everyone else just sees them as a deterrent
While I mostly agree, the rules are a bit different when death cults are involved.
Yeah, the rule is: “when death cults like Israel and the USA keep attacking you, you need that nuke”
MAD only works when your opponent is afraid of dying. When your motivation is the promise of an afterlife, like all the Abrahamic religions give, it’s a more precarious situation.
So the US, Israel AND Iran should not have nukes. I know two of the three already do have them, but I’m not sure that the last one getting nukes will actually make things more stable. Especially when the first two are being run by geriatrics.
I mean, we aren’t fucking with North Korea, Russia, or China are we? They’ve all been demonized about as much as Iran. Why not them?
(It’s nukes, partly Israel being a death cult right now but mostly the nukes.)
