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      If you’re listening to what someone else is saying about what someone says, instead of just listening to what they are actually saying…then you are listening to a “narrative”. That intentional misrepresentation of the truth is called “propaganda”.

      Do you understand what those words mean?

      Because if you actually listen to what he’s saying, instead of what other people are saying about him, then you probably wouldn’t fall for their propaganda.

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        What have I said, that isn’t factual? Is it hearsay that he has a Nazi tattoo, or that he worked at Abu ghraib and for Blackwater? Those are just facts, aren’t they? I have listened to what he is saying, and his politics sounds good. Excuse me if I take his words with a grain of salt, given his past actions. No “narrative” needed for me to be wary of a guy with a past like that.

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          Lol! The “What have I said that isn’t factually true?”, is probably the most “misinformation” response to being called out for spreading misinformation, there is.

          Are you actually suggesting that anyone with a skull and crossbones tattoo, is automatically a Nazi? Even if that person has extremely non-Nazi political views?

          You say you’ve listened to what he’s been saying, and can’t find anything wrong with it…but, you’re still skeptical because the establishment keeps calling him a Nazi…but can’t understand why I might call you out for falling for their propaganda?

          This is such a weird take, man. You should probably give it some thought.

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            Come on. If I see a “skull and crossbones”, I think “pirate”. If I see a totenkopf (or a swastika), I think “Nazi”. I guess that’s a “narrative” but it’s not one specific to Mr. Platner, and not something I need “the establishment” to tell me.

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              The “narrative” is that he knew what it was when he got it…because he’s a Nazi. The implication that he’s some kind of “secret racist”, who’s only pretending to hold progressive views. That’s the “narrative” the establishment wants you to believe.

              Is that not the same narrative you keep talking about? Maybe I misunderstood your position, then? Or are you just playing dumb, now?

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                12 hours ago

                If I see someone with a Nazi tattoo, I assume they are a Nazi. Crazy, I know. You on the other hand, are going with the narrative that he didn’t know what it was. You could be right! I’m skeptical.

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                  If I see someone with a Nazi tattoo, I assume they are a Nazi. Crazy, I know.

                  Crazier still, is that you wouldn’t even ask them about it…or listen to them, if they tell you they didn’t know it was a Nazi symbol when they got it.

                  Instead, you’d go the extra mile and assume they were lying, and that everything they stand for is some kind of psy-op that just also happens to conveniently benefit the establishment, by keeping a long-standing conservative in power?

                  Again…are you not the same guy that posted that meme about how “they” are always trying to divide the left with some clever scam? And yet, here you are…faced with one in real time…and you fell for it.

                  This is exactly how they do it. You’re the meme, dude.

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                    10 hours ago

                    No, I’m not in the habit of asking people to explain their obvious Nazi tattoos. Now, if I see something like a Thor’s hammer tattoo/necklace, I will ask them about it, since that one can go either way. What I hear you saying is that I’m crazy/dumb for putting more stock in a tattoo (and job history) than in what the guy says. You are welcome to take people at their word, but please try to understand why some of us might need a little more “trust building” in a case like this.