the problem really is fundamental. Police exist, and have always existed, to protect capital.
This, in my experience (exclusively outside the US), is just plain wrong. If I enumerate my interactions with police over the years the vast majority is personal well being, not corporate property or capital.
They showed up to my neighbours house a few times over domestic violence complaints. Actually she got a restraining order against him, then a few weeks later was threatening suicide, and the police picked him up and took him to see her. They got back together after that (for better or worse, but they do have kids and seem happy enough).
Another neighbour had a psychotic break and appeared in my back yard one morning. The po-po showed up and managed the situation in a humane and sympathetic manner. Actually years later he was prosecuted for possession of CSAM.
I had some expensive trainers (shoes) that were stolen from my front door. I got the perps on camera and the police showed up to see. The thief was known to them and the video allowed them to get a warrant for a search. They didn’t get my shoes but they got a bunch of other stuff. I suppose you could call this “protection of capital” but I don’t think anyone really thinks of their shoes and other personal effects as capital.
I regularly see the police on the road. Conducting breath tests to check no one is driving drunk. When there’s an accident they show up to manage traffic and so on.
My kids (3yo twins) have weekly gymnastics lessons at a local Police and Community Youth Centre. There’s always a couple of coppers hanging around. That centre has dance, music, boxing, et cetera. It’s not funded by the police but a lot of events and programs are conducted with police participation.
In contrast I called them about an annoying alarm that was going off in a nearby bus-depot all weekend. They were decidedly disinterested in whatever was going on. They looked around and said that there was no sign of an imminent threat or ongoing crime so they weren’t going to enter the property. Not much protection of capital going on there.
The assertion that police exist [only to] to protect capital just doesn’t align with my observed experience. Sure, police in the US might be more concerned with shooting people, not getting shot, and protecting capital, but that’s an American problem rather than a police problem.
Congrats, the copaganda has worked on you. No matter where you live on earth; the police orgs we have today descend from slave catching institutions in the USA and it shows.
Well it kind of depends on where you live and what language you’re speaking as to whether or not we’re referring to the same group (or if your country even has a proper analog).
For example, France has both the police and the gendarme, the latter of which (to my understanding) is more militarized, allowing the former to often be much better liaisons to the public in situations that might not require force.
They also didn’t completely abandon all spirit of comradarie as a nation after their revolution.
Police in the US help landlords forcibly evict tenants. It’s literally one of the job responsibilities.
This, in my experience (exclusively outside the US), is just plain wrong. If I enumerate my interactions with police over the years the vast majority is personal well being, not corporate property or capital.
They showed up to my neighbours house a few times over domestic violence complaints. Actually she got a restraining order against him, then a few weeks later was threatening suicide, and the police picked him up and took him to see her. They got back together after that (for better or worse, but they do have kids and seem happy enough).
Another neighbour had a psychotic break and appeared in my back yard one morning. The po-po showed up and managed the situation in a humane and sympathetic manner. Actually years later he was prosecuted for possession of CSAM.
I had some expensive trainers (shoes) that were stolen from my front door. I got the perps on camera and the police showed up to see. The thief was known to them and the video allowed them to get a warrant for a search. They didn’t get my shoes but they got a bunch of other stuff. I suppose you could call this “protection of capital” but I don’t think anyone really thinks of their shoes and other personal effects as capital.
I regularly see the police on the road. Conducting breath tests to check no one is driving drunk. When there’s an accident they show up to manage traffic and so on.
My kids (3yo twins) have weekly gymnastics lessons at a local Police and Community Youth Centre. There’s always a couple of coppers hanging around. That centre has dance, music, boxing, et cetera. It’s not funded by the police but a lot of events and programs are conducted with police participation.
In contrast I called them about an annoying alarm that was going off in a nearby bus-depot all weekend. They were decidedly disinterested in whatever was going on. They looked around and said that there was no sign of an imminent threat or ongoing crime so they weren’t going to enter the property. Not much protection of capital going on there.
The assertion that police exist [only to] to protect capital just doesn’t align with my observed experience. Sure, police in the US might be more concerned with shooting people, not getting shot, and protecting capital, but that’s an American problem rather than a police problem.
Congrats, the copaganda has worked on you. No matter where you live on earth; the police orgs we have today descend from slave catching institutions in the USA and it shows.
Well it kind of depends on where you live and what language you’re speaking as to whether or not we’re referring to the same group (or if your country even has a proper analog).
For example, France has both the police and the gendarme, the latter of which (to my understanding) is more militarized, allowing the former to often be much better liaisons to the public in situations that might not require force.
They also didn’t completely abandon all spirit of comradarie as a nation after their revolution.
Police in the US help landlords forcibly evict tenants. It’s literally one of the job responsibilities.