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    22 days ago

    Afghanistan and Iraq happened with the support of democrats and was worsened under democratic leadership. The current genocide in Gaza started under Biden. Roe v Wade was overturned under Biden. By domestic terror do you mean ICE? Tom Homan was appointed by Obama and Obama was the one to massively expand ICE.
    Iran has been the target of the US empire for decades, Kamala Harris called it the biggest enemy of the US. She was just as fervent a supporter of Israel as Biden and Trump, and Israel pushing for the war is why its happening. There is no way of knowing what would have happened under a dem president, but we have all reason to assume she would have gone along with the war against Iran, just like Trump did.

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      Afghanistan would probably have happened under a Democrat. Iraq almost certainly not. Clinton got shit for holding off on intervention in Rewanda Because he was gun-shy after Somalias black hawk down incident.

      I don’t think Gore would have ordered a ground invasion of Iraq. Bush ordered the Surge. Obama listed to Patreus and ordered the mini surge and then mostly pulled out when thr Iraqies asserted their independence and refused to allow the US military continued immunity from all crimes.

      Yes I mean ICE. Democrats have refused to do the right things, yes, but they have been consistently less cruel and escalatory than Republicans, maybe you forgot Obama created Daca when congress killed the dream act? Who supported that law? Democrats or Republicans?

      Netanyahu has pitched the idea of decapitation strikes against Iran to every president since Bush and they all told him that’s a stupid idea and we won’t go along with it, including Trump first term, when he still had advisors like Mark Milley who understood up from down.

      We have every reason to think Harris would have told Netanyahu to shove it just like Biden did.

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        19 days ago

        What fantasy world do you live in? It’s certainly lot this reality. The war plans Trump used the first time he bombed Iran were from war games drawn up by the Biden administration. Biden 100% backed netanyahu.

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        I am so happy this thread is so old now that it no longer matters whether or not I engage with your fantastical imaginings. This whole alternate world you’re making up where democrat-

        We have every reason to think Harris would have told Netanyahu to shove it just like Biden did.

        ??? You’re straight up deranged. What world are you living in? Biden bypassed congress to give Netanyahu more bombs.

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            This will be my last response since you made the absolutely ludicrous statement that the democrats (who ran on doing the war better) would not pursue war with Iraq. They were fucking rabid for war. When you say such a thing you show yourself to be either completely detached from reality, or a troll. So I will write now and keep it to that.

            what reality are you living in?

            The one where he was a rabid zionist willing to do everything for Israel, the one where the democratic nominee said this:

            https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/8/kamala-harris-says-iran-is-greatest-adversary-of-us

            October 2024:

            In an interview with the CBS television network aired on Monday night, the Democratic presidential candidate said Iran is the “obvious” answer when asked about the country she considers to be the US’s “greatest adversary”.

            “Iran has American blood on their hands – this attack on Israel, 200 ballistic missiles,” she said. “What we need to do [is] to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to be a nuclear power. That is one of my highest priorities.”

            Meanwhile, the Biden administration continued to enforce Trump-era sanctions against Iran and added dozens of its own against Iranian companies and officials.

            Harris “unequivocally” denounced the Iranian missile launches. “I am clear-eyed: Iran is a destabilising, dangerous force in the Middle East, and today’s attack on Israel only further demonstrates that fact,” she said on October 1.

            The vice president has repeatedly pledged to continue to arm Israel, citing in part what she calls the threat of Iran, despite growing anger over well-documented Israeli abuses in Gaza and Lebanon.

            The one where whitehouse insiders admitted they were preparing for war

            Don’t worry you would have supported the war under Biden because he would have made up some bullshit about 100’s of thousands of dead protesters and you would have clutched your pearls despite never looking into it.