• ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
    6·
    1 year ago

    Computers have been dumbed down and simplified for the masses. When I was a kid a computer did not cooperate until you raised your voice.

  • SS2k_2003@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    There should be a class where they force you to install arch Linux without the automated install script and force people to learn how an OS works, or even make them do a Gentoo installation. You only pass it if you get to a fully functioning PC with a web browser and desktop environment

    • raptir@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Why stop at Arch? I had to write my own kernel in college let’s make everyone do that.

      Yes, I’m posting this to point out the silliness of your idea.

  • ganbramor@lemmy.world
    1·
    1 year ago

    The number of people in this thread stumped by the “rotate a PDF” comment, even what it means at all, while a smartphone has been 95-100% of their “computer” usage in their lives.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1·
    1 year ago

    in today’s edition of “why are the kids I raised so damn incompetent?”

    i long for a day where people understand that it’s not the ipad kid’s fault they were given a tablet at age 2

    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      0·
      1 year ago

      That’s… part of it, but part of it is just ease of use. In growing up, I had to figure out issues with my computer,and getting games etc working took some work to do. I build a gaming PC for my nephew(under 10, but games a lot mobile and with consoles) and he played a few games on it, but then my sister (a gamer herself) said he couldn’t really get used to keyboard over controller (at which point I reminded her she could just get him a PC controller or use one of the console ones that also work on PC).

      He just seems to prefer to use things that are already intuitive, and since my childhood things have gotten much better in that regard for consoles and mobile stuff. You can definitely do it on PC as well, but it often means more accessories, sometimes figuring out issues . I got another sister of mine a controller for pc and it took a bit of effort getting it properly synced for the game she wanted to play. It would show up properly in the OS, but then the game he issues, so we had to switch through modes and such, and sometimes even though one mode may work an update or something may break it.

      I like using controllers for some games, and WASD for others, but even though IT is my job and I’m good at fixing things, some games have weird issues with some controllers, especially if they have mode options. All that extra fixing and finding the right settings is just frustrating for some, and with easy to use alternatives they may not bother to learn. I had no choice, just SNES and pc while growing up.

    • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Hahaha its funny each time that happens.

      My uncle is GenX and way smarter than my millennial ass. They paved the way for child free poppin off and being tech savvy with a normal tech free upbringing.

      Anecdotal I know. But always funny how self centered us millenials can be thinking were the last normal generation.

    • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      I figured they were talking about the Oregon Trail generation. It’s made up of the folks who were old enough and young enough to play the game in schools and spans across parts of X and millennials.

    • blitzen@lemmy.ca
      0·
      1 year ago

      Probably. But if I’m being generous, we’re really only talking about younger X and older millennials.

      • tomenzgg@midwest.socialEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        This always surprises me as I’m younger millennial and my Gen X dad always feels more technologically behind than me.

        But it’s funny because I’m only so into computers because of him as he had things like Windows 3.1 and 95 and 98 in our home from a young age and he even went to school for C++ but he doesn’t really remember it (it got him an accounting gig) and his pursual of technology these days is pretty limited to pre-built stuff from Samsung and Sony than any real grasp of how it works. I struggle to get him to show even passing interest in something like Linux (like, I get liking Windows; you grew up with it: you’re more comfortable with it. But not even curiosity, even if you’ll never use it?).

        Expert on Excel and OneNote (because it’s his daily bread-and-butter) but probably would ask for my help on rotating a PDF.

        What OP describes sounds much more aligned to my millennial peers than the bulk of Gen. X I know.

  • ramsgrl909@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 year ago

    I am genuinely having a hard time with my Gen Z employee. I have to go through everything step by step each time and it just seems like nothing sticks. I even create documentation for him and he just can’t follow it fully.

    I’m truly baffled and any advice is welcome.

      • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        So much fucking this. So many people these days are straight up just useless at their jobs, but companies and managers tend to fall into some sort of toxic positivity bullshit and it’s just so hard to give negative feedback to someone notoriously bad at their job somehow. An advice would be to just keep it honest and expect some sort of improvement, otherwise they may try their luck somewhere else.

        • ramsgrl909@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 year ago

          I was giving him positive reinforcement his first year (honestly thought it would work with him to reinforce the good things he does), this year is the brutal truth year.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        01·
        1 year ago

        So many people do not deserve jobs.

        That’s kind of gross… Maybe they don’t “deserve” the job that they have, but they deserve jobs.

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    1 year ago

    I can:

    • Accomplish damn near anything from a command line
    • Write machine code
    • Remember a fairly broad swath of special character altcodes without looking them up
    • Disassemble damn near any computer or other machine, and stand a good chance of putting it back together

    But also:

    • Use modern programming languages, including object oriented paradigms
    • Actually read what is on my screen and comprehend it, including error messages
    • Understand and operate any arbitrary interface without having to have it explained to me by rote

    Behold my mixture of skills, and tremble.

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 year ago

    Me: Behold!

    *quickly presses Control+V

    Classmate: Woah! How did you do that??!!!

    True story but as a millennial teaching another millennial in college.

    • dick_fineman@discuss.onlineBanned
      0·
      1 year ago

      Former boss: How do I make my computer run faster?

      Me: you could install more RAM.

      FB: Oh do I download that from the internet?

      Me: …no, it’s hardware…you have to open the computer up and physically put it in there.

      FB: I should have known that, I majored in Computer Science

      …I was fired a week later because she “felt threatened”. Lol.

      • Krauerking@lemy.lol
        1·
        1 year ago

        I had that happen after I told the IT manager who always showed up drunk that his flash drives weren’t working because he couldn’t expect to buy an 8 pack of 1TB flash drives of amazon for $30 and that he was at worst handing out viruses.

        I also told the interns to demand full time positions for doing all the work and not be taken advantage of so that didn’t help with the HR director.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
    0·
    1 year ago

    We got a new kid around 19 working at our office for processing data and I hate how true this is. The amount of times I’ve had to say “No, you have to double click to open folders” is entirely too many. Either that or “You have to actually right click on the icon you want to copy you can’t just click anywhere on the screen.”

    • cepelinas@sopuli.xyz
      1·
      1 year ago

      We are getting this teached in 6th grade what country is this from? Edit: Įn 8th rudementary python.

  • Neps@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    01·
    1 year ago

    Yea surprise some people are good at using computers some are bad, has nothing to do with whatever generation someone is apart of, generation labels are so dumb. Literally every “milleinal” I’ve known comes to me for their computer problems.