No, you’re flat out wrong, the bat is moving in a rotational motion and increasing in speed as it rotates because the wielder won’t be putting any stopping force until they are past the point they intend to strike. This rotational motion, where the farthest point from the fulcrum (shoulder) has the most force. Meaning if you are in range, the farther out you are, the harder you get hit. You must be able to get out of range in order for backing away to be effective, otherwise you get hit harder.
You’re only correct if it’s thrown, and if you’re this close, it won’t make a difference.
So your argument is that since it’s increasing velocity, the force given from its momentum is increasing, but decreasing that momentum by robbing it of some velocity does not decrease the force.
Does my summary of your argument sound correct to you?
Think about it as just a really long pole on a rotating shaft. The further you are away from the center of rotation the faster the pole is moving at that point. That’s why really long swords are more powerful (though harder to wield) than shorter ones, even if they’re the same mass. If you get hit by the tip of the sword it transfers a lot more energy than near the hilt.
Another way to think about it is it hurts a lot more to get hit by the fist when someone punches than if you get really close and are only hit by their shoulder.
the rest of the comment totally misrepresented what was happening here. the protestor isn’t backing away, they’re moving downwards. the officer isn’t swinging the baton, he’s punching straight downwards with it because he didn’t get a chance to swing.
In the one picture we have of the officer before contact is made, you’re saying they’re punching with the baton when it’s above their shoulder and to the side.
no, in the video of the protest, we see him punching downwards and not swinging. this happened in Chile in 2019. this is not the only angle of the fight either, there’s a video that’s close up within maybe 20 ft on the other side.
he immediately got up and the protestor did basically the same thing to him again before running off as more cops arrived.
I couldn’t find the link for this video, which is no wonder, because it’s several years old and reddit has since deleted every version of it I could find hosted there. surprise, surprise.
I did manage to find the other angle though, but you’ll have to make due with a facebook link, because that’s all I got.
It didn’t. The video of the riot in question that I posted shows that. Which is probably why they haven’t replied to the thread since.
But even if it did, a hook is also rotational force, and boxers still roll away from it to avoid or lessen the blow. I think if that was the wrong thing to do, they would have stopped doing it several decades ago.
No, you’re flat out wrong, the bat is moving in a rotational motion and increasing in speed as it rotates because the wielder won’t be putting any stopping force until they are past the point they intend to strike. This rotational motion, where the farthest point from the fulcrum (shoulder) has the most force. Meaning if you are in range, the farther out you are, the harder you get hit. You must be able to get out of range in order for backing away to be effective, otherwise you get hit harder.
You’re only correct if it’s thrown, and if you’re this close, it won’t make a difference.
I love the word fulcrum. I dont know what it means but it’s beautiful :3
It’s the bit in the center that holds up the teeter totter. The axis of rotation in a lever.
So your argument is that since it’s increasing velocity, the force given from its momentum is increasing, but decreasing that momentum by robbing it of some velocity does not decrease the force.
Does my summary of your argument sound correct to you?
Think about it as just a really long pole on a rotating shaft. The further you are away from the center of rotation the faster the pole is moving at that point. That’s why really long swords are more powerful (though harder to wield) than shorter ones, even if they’re the same mass. If you get hit by the tip of the sword it transfers a lot more energy than near the hilt.
Another way to think about it is it hurts a lot more to get hit by the fist when someone punches than if you get really close and are only hit by their shoulder.
No, try reading the other 90% of my comment.
the rest of the comment totally misrepresented what was happening here. the protestor isn’t backing away, they’re moving downwards. the officer isn’t swinging the baton, he’s punching straight downwards with it because he didn’t get a chance to swing.
now that you are up to speed, try again.
In the one picture we have of the officer before contact is made, you’re saying they’re punching with the baton when it’s above their shoulder and to the side.
no, in the video of the protest, we see him punching downwards and not swinging. this happened in Chile in 2019. this is not the only angle of the fight either, there’s a video that’s close up within maybe 20 ft on the other side.
he immediately got up and the protestor did basically the same thing to him again before running off as more cops arrived.
Do share the link.
I couldn’t find the link for this video, which is no wonder, because it’s several years old and reddit has since deleted every version of it I could find hosted there. surprise, surprise.
I did manage to find the other angle though, but you’ll have to make due with a facebook link, because that’s all I got.
https://www.facebook.com/ChilenoPromedio2.0/videos/1337891916394316/
notice the cop that gets knocked down the second time is the same as the first.
They’re saying the hit is coming from the side. I’m not an expert, can’t zpeak to the truth of it, but you’re being obtuse.
It didn’t. The video of the riot in question that I posted shows that. Which is probably why they haven’t replied to the thread since.
But even if it did, a hook is also rotational force, and boxers still roll away from it to avoid or lessen the blow. I think if that was the wrong thing to do, they would have stopped doing it several decades ago.
So you dont run away from the source you run away from the hit, which us sideways in a circle?