That’s pretty fucking stupid since people worked on stuff outside of subsistence farming well before money existed.
Economics existed before capitalism… Macroeconomics does not solely consist of the evaluation of currency. You can do a modern economic evaluation of subsistence farming communities, or a historical macroeconomic evaluation of previous societies.
Macroeconomics studies large scale forces of the economy, like a population’s effect on productivity, labor policy, government type, taxation, or even how weather will affect food growth.
In your bleak worldview humanity must enslave itself.
Lol, even in economies where people equally own the means of production, individual people still have to be productive…
You are just a lazy ass who wants to receive the benefits of a socially and economically equitable society without labouring for it.
figure out a way for people to have their needs met and have a functioning society, but your motivations are clearly set in a different direction.
I started this conversation by arguing we should have a system that already insured our needs were met… You just want your needs met and then extra money so you can be a lazy ass and not contribute anything to society.
UBI is a scam that billionaires put forward because they know cutting a check for 500 bucks every month is a hell of a lot cheaper alternative than providing food, education, housing, and healthcare.
Maybe learn a iota about the economy before you start gargling Andrew Yang’s ballsack…
Like I said before, amazing how people will argue against their better interests.
Lol, arguing something will not work because it disregards very simple economic principles is not “arguing against my own interests”.
Really bold of you to assume I’m just lazy, too.
I mean, you’re obviously too lazy to apply yourself to learn basic concepts…so yeah, lazy asshole.
It’s really funny that you got this bent out of shape when someone just asks “why not both”
My dude, dunking on lazy idiots online is fun…
Ah well can’t help everyone, especially when they won’t bother trying, right?
The irony… Coming from the idiot who thinks we could provide housing, medical care, education, food and give everyone $500 a month by just by changing taxes…
Considering how the government spends money on so much other shit
Again… You have no idea what you are talking about, and have no clue how much healthcare cost.
The federal government’s largest expense is social security (22%), Medicare (14%), and Medicaid(10%). That’s nearly half of the entire federal budget to cover some of the cost of living and healthcare for a minority of the country.
Granted our system is wasteful and inefficient, but not to the point where we wouldn’t have to vastly increase revenue to cover the entire populations healthcare, food, housing and education. We would have to reshape the entire economy to do so, and I think there is a moral imperative to do so. However, once that is accomplished, I do not see a reason to implement UBI, a plan that would just further increase the need for revenue that’s already being spent for better purposes.
I already explained why UBI would not stimulate the economy under a the economic conditions we were discussing. There’s a reason no communist country has implemented a UBI. You are just too dense to actually understand anything we’re talking about. You don’t even understand the reason UBI is a scam in our current economic system let alone a hypothetical one.
not last, I’m just gonna take advice from someone who probably stabs homeless people.
Lol, I advocate for universal housing, education, nutrition, and healthcare… But because you don’t understand basic economics, it means I want to murder homeless people?
Also I imagine you meant to say "I’m not lazy, I’m just not gonna take advice…?
It’s almost like you’re too lazy to even read your own responses…
Economics existed before capitalism… Macroeconomics does not solely consist of the evaluation of currency. You can do a modern economic evaluation of subsistence farming communities, or a historical macroeconomic evaluation of previous societies.
Macroeconomics studies large scale forces of the economy, like a population’s effect on productivity, labor policy, government type, taxation, or even how weather will affect food growth.
Lol, even in economies where people equally own the means of production, individual people still have to be productive…
You are just a lazy ass who wants to receive the benefits of a socially and economically equitable society without labouring for it.
I started this conversation by arguing we should have a system that already insured our needs were met… You just want your needs met and then extra money so you can be a lazy ass and not contribute anything to society.
UBI is a scam that billionaires put forward because they know cutting a check for 500 bucks every month is a hell of a lot cheaper alternative than providing food, education, housing, and healthcare.
Maybe learn a iota about the economy before you start gargling Andrew Yang’s ballsack…
Like I said before, amazing how people will argue against their better interests. Really bold of you to assume I’m just lazy, too.
It’s really funny that you got this bent out of shape when someone just asks “why not both”
Ah well can’t help everyone, especially when they won’t bother trying, right?
Lol, arguing something will not work because it disregards very simple economic principles is not “arguing against my own interests”.
I mean, you’re obviously too lazy to apply yourself to learn basic concepts…so yeah, lazy asshole.
My dude, dunking on lazy idiots online is fun…
The irony… Coming from the idiot who thinks we could provide housing, medical care, education, food and give everyone $500 a month by just by changing taxes…
Considering how the government spends money on so much other shit, it would cost a pittance in comparison, and generate more flow in the economy.
I’m not last, I’m just gonna take advice from someone who probably stabs homeless people.
Again… You have no idea what you are talking about, and have no clue how much healthcare cost.
The federal government’s largest expense is social security (22%), Medicare (14%), and Medicaid(10%). That’s nearly half of the entire federal budget to cover some of the cost of living and healthcare for a minority of the country.
Granted our system is wasteful and inefficient, but not to the point where we wouldn’t have to vastly increase revenue to cover the entire populations healthcare, food, housing and education. We would have to reshape the entire economy to do so, and I think there is a moral imperative to do so. However, once that is accomplished, I do not see a reason to implement UBI, a plan that would just further increase the need for revenue that’s already being spent for better purposes.
I already explained why UBI would not stimulate the economy under a the economic conditions we were discussing. There’s a reason no communist country has implemented a UBI. You are just too dense to actually understand anything we’re talking about. You don’t even understand the reason UBI is a scam in our current economic system let alone a hypothetical one.
Lol, I advocate for universal housing, education, nutrition, and healthcare… But because you don’t understand basic economics, it means I want to murder homeless people?
Also I imagine you meant to say "I’m not lazy, I’m just not gonna take advice…?
It’s almost like you’re too lazy to even read your own responses…