• CherenkovBlue@lemmy.myserv.one
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    2 years ago

    Is this…Mongolian propaganda? Because the Kahns definitely did a whole lot of subjugating, raping and murdering. Not sure that really fits the “coexist” meme…

  • TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I find it interesting how the Mongolian empire has kind of taken a 180 in its historical image. Not long ago they were viewed as just cartoon villains that destroyed everything. But now you see so many people talking about some of the “good” aspects that it almost makes them seem strangely benevolent.

    The reality of course was that they were an empire, and like all empires they steamrolled and destroyed anything that stood in their way while taking advantage of anything that furthered their goals. They probably killed far more people than they helped if you asked anyone living through the time.

    Dan Carlin’s podcast, Hardcore History, has a series called Wrath of the Khans where he talks about this in length and it’s very interesting to think about.

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      2 years ago

      from my understanding , it’s a chain of

      You see that village over there? they resisted. we burnt everything , killed every man and child, and raped all the women.

      See the other village over there? they joined us, and we gave them access to goods from across the world, the latest technology and treat them better than their previous rulers.

      Your choice.

      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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        2 years ago

        I will be your best friend, then work hard in my lab to create a new unstoppable virus that puts an end to multicellular life on this planet.

      • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 years ago

        (As per K&G youtube channel) I learned that when it comes to believe system, the Mongols believe that everyone worships the same god, Tengri, but in varied way in every culture/religion they encounter.

        They believe that as long as everyone submit themselves under the Mongol rule, it means they obey Tengri/Mongolian god.

        There are various religious communities inside the empire but they also don’t bother to do the worst thing possible to obliterate anyone who doesn’t submit to Mongol, regardless their believe.

        But I think in a smaller level it’s also not as simple/straightforward as that. Mongolian Shamans also known to have conflicts with the Khan. Sometimes the Khan kept asking the Shamans to do a ritual over and over again until the result aligns with the Khan’s desire. Or sometimes the Shaman (being a regarded class in their society) have their own political motive to do something against the Khan.