If it looks like trash then kiss my ass
When a company uses ai I put them on my blacklist, I don’t touch their slop ever again.
When people use ai I know to never interact with them, because it’s a waste of my time.
When a user online posts ai slop, I block them so their shit doesn’t show up in my feed.
This art made by an artist wearing clothes made by machines because they didn’t want to pay a tailor.
What the fuck kind of garbage argument is that, gtfo here
Everyone laugh at this person. Heckle and pursue them all their days.
Do you not think fashion is art?
Most people buying clothes aren’t looking for high fashion, they’re looking for something comfortable in a colour that they like. Those who are looking for fashion tend to get clothes that are originally designed and made by a tailor, and then copied so others may wear them, importantly with the consent of the tailor. These are akin to YCH commissions, since the artist/tailor gets paid for the design.
This doesn’t apply to AI image generation, as the artists are almost never asked for their consent before their work gets copied and cloned a million times over. Nor do they get any sort of compensation for their stolen work.
Most people buying art aren’t looking for high art, they’re looking for something that they enjoy looking at. Those who are into art are in no way restricted from buying non-AI art if they want to. The whole argument about intellectual theft is bullshit, every single fashion designer steals ideas and inspiration from elsewhere.
See, here’s my problem. I took some time to think it over.
You don’t actually care about art, here. You care about what you do. Which, I’m guessing, involves tailoring.
You brought tailoring into this out of nowhere. Nobody was talking about it but you had to.
This conversation was about AI art and the consequences of it on people trying to make a living, and your retort was sewing machines took jobs too.
You really wanna stand by that? Is that the hill you wanna die on?
I automate business processes for a living, not using AI (yet). I literally improve productivity for a living.
Making an argument about the consequences of people trying to make a living was exactly my point, but you fail to realize that that argument has been made literally hundreds of times over the last two centuries as new technologies have come out that cause concerns for workers, Including for fabric and sewing.
The first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on Luddites:
The Luddites were members of a 19th-century movement of English textile workers who opposed the use of certain types of automated machinery due to concerns relating to worker pay and output quality. They often destroyed the machines in organised raids.[1][2] Members of the group referred to themselves as Luddites, self-described followers of “Ned Ludd”, a legendary weaver whose name was used as a pseudonym in threatening letters to mill owners and government officials.[3]
You’re just Ludd-AI-tes
Yeah I’ve seen this nonsense before. “Yet you live in capitalism, curious”. Bullshit.
The world needs more clothes than human hands can make. Not true of illustrations.
Humans clothed themselves before machines existed, so clearly that isn’t true.
Want to try a different argument?
And they did so via slavery. Still do in some parts of the world. So their argument is still valid. Clothing people requires these tools, art does not. AI ‘art’ doesn’t need to exist.
Are you stupid? You think that the only way everyone had clothes 2000 years ago was slavery?
The Amish still make their own clothes today, without any slavery or machines beyond a spinning jenny.
Hate to tell you but you’re the only one thinking that. The average consumer could not care less.
The average consumer cares about the quality of a product as well as how affordable it is. AI…I dunno, it doesn’t really make a product “look” better if it’s ads or packaging or what have you, have a “meh” AI art vibe. AI art, because of its ease of generation, is vast becoming a sign of genericness.
The average consumer couldn’t pick out AI generated marketing anyway
Depends on your target demographic I guess. Younger consumers will notice, older ones not so much.
That’s hyperbole. Perhaps the majority of consumers don’t care, but some do.
It’s not hyperbole. I said “the average consumer”, not “all consumers”.
Don’t know what that link is but it’s staying blue unless you want to tell me what’s behind it.
It is a link to an academic journal.
Consequently, this study suggests that using the term “Artificial Intelligence” in marketing campaigns and product descriptions may negatively impact consumer demand.
The OP is not about using AI terminology in marketing campaigns, it’s about using AI imagery.
Haha… I started an LLC on Wednesday. I had AI generate a (temporary) company logo for me.
Yesterday, I sent that logo to a real artist and asked them to re-make and improve it because I’m not planning on using AI shit.
If I can afford to spend $75 on a side hustle, any real company that I’m buying shit from better at least be doing the same.
Except, you literally are describing using AI to save yourself the cost of several rounds of revisions with a graphic designer…
… and then paying a designer…
It’s a side business with $0 in income. There’s no fucking way I’m going more than 2 rounds on revisions as it is. If it’s more than that, I’ll do the art myself and it’ll be shit; but better than nothing. Simply not worth it at $0 income. If AI wasn’t an option to get things started, the artist wouldn’t be getting paid at all because I wouldn’t be hiring an artist.
I don’t think there’s anything actually wrong with what you did, but I also don’t think you should kid yourself that you didn’t use AI shit for your business just because it wasn’t the final logo.
That’s absurd.
There’s a possibility that the artist might come back to me with something different from the AI mockup. We don’t know that yet. I only told them that the logo needs three specific components.
If I ask an AI to give me a premise for a book, write the entire book, delete it before anyone ever reads it, decide on a different premise and write a different book, did I use AI to write the book that people are going to read? No.
So like you didn’t find it useful at all for your business? Like not even to help you clarify your vision to a graphic designer?
Hard to differentiate
Better to assume they are cheaping out on the product or overcharging you if they can afford to advertise
Trust me, you’re going to have zero ability to discern what is AI generated in less than two years.
Not too sure about that, that might be the case but currently, they would need much more training to not mess up facial features, to make images truly lifelike and to follow prompt instructions better.
I’ve used dalle a fair bit and I came to the conclusion that you will never get a truly accurate representation of a person, such as hair on a bald persons head, stubble turning into a moustache, tons of wrinkles for no reason, etc. It only seems good at generating cartoon characters, even then though, there are still inaccuracies.
Actually the more a company spends on advertising the more it’s going to be a cheap scammy product. Have you ever bought anything off TV? I don’t recommend it. $29 minimum for things that should be in a $5 misc bin at Walmart. Why? You are paying for their marketing.
