• known_unknown@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    AI images may may or may not be art, but it will never be YOUR art, any more than the art of artists I employ is my art. It just isn’t.

    However, I think any AI argument that doesn’t mention capitalism as a factor is incapably reductive. As other commenters indicate, even very physically restricted individuals can and will create art.

    Because they often have the means that many under capitalism do not: they often have time because they aren’t under full time employment. They have extra mental energy, the “spoons”.

    Once again, the issue is ultimately a deflection from systemic issues that the upper class insist they aren’t intentionally worsening 🫠

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    3 months ago

    I think op fight a strawman here, AI is just like a tool, it can speed up the process .A lot of people can think of a cool thing but can t actually make it/ draw it. In this sense you could see that just like photoshop ,a tool that speed thing up . I saw the prompts/ software that people use on r/stablediffusion and AI in itself need work to do a good art.

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      Tbf, her issue with AI art is that is now possible to prompt “make me a 4 panel comic where x happens, in the style of Sarah Anderson”. Her reasoning is this might make it harder to find her real comics, and devaluate them because there is no quality control. Which are valid points. However, in the two or so years AI imaging had been around, I haven’t seen it happen jet. My guess is this is because people without talent also will not have ideas for comics. On the other hand, it just takes one person staffing for a political campaign to think of it and the artist is basically screwed.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah, it’s not that A1 is making “art” accessible, it’s making stuff that artists can do accessible like comic strips.

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    I generally dislike AI for a swathe of fairly generic reasons, but their rebuttal doesn’t refute the accessibility argument. AI art is miles more accessible than any other art. You just shouldn’t be comfortable claiming it as your art.

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      3 months ago

      What makes it accessible?

      I would think a pencil and paper is much more accessible than a thousand dollar phone or computer.

      [edit] Is it that people with hand tremors can type instead of draw?

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        3 months ago

        In the west, education and time are less accessible than electronics. It’s, unfortunately, that simple. There are arguments to be made elsewhere and elsewhen, but that is the current state of things.

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          Oh.

          In that case, I don’t think this is an accessibility I respect.

          Skill in any medium is accessible only to those who have been educated in that skill. I get that it’s expensive, but that is unfortunately just how attribution works.

          I’m not interested in the musings of a philosopher whose philosophy is written for them. I’m not interested in the artistic expression of someone whose expression is decided for them. Your ideas have to come from you.

          If someone wants a colorful backdrop to something else they’re doing, then images are more accessible, but art is not.

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    3 months ago

    Person with fine motor controls and dominant arm that functions says accessibility not a problem…go figure.

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    Big fan of Sarah Andersen but this is a terrible argument.

    It’s like a white man in the 1930s saying, “You’re telling me getting a job is a privilege? Then how come I can get many different kinds of job?”

    Because you aren’t the one struggling here.

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      Not following you? Artist is stating art is accessible to anyone. Even if you do it terribly at least you did it. Yes people who do it well and practice should get paid well for it.

      Doesn’t change that the masses have access to making art with a random marker and a notebook. They always had access. Yes they shouldn’t get paid or anything. Just enjoy your own art.

      What AI does is give people art without soul or the discipline. Skipping A all the way to Z. Like handing an AK-47 to a child and saying now you’re a soldier because you can kill people! A lot more nuance to get there.