No, it doesn’t. For example, there are some people who have a Christ-centred socialist view. Karl Marx was Antitheist and Materialist. That’s my main reason for disagreeing with Marxism.

The reality is that no political system will ever abolish oppression due to The Fall.

You are literally advocating against the poor right now. Any hope of actually helping the poor, advancing the people’s condition through systemic change, is impossible and a foolish, immoral endeavor, according to you, we should all just suffer and accept whatever oppression and injustice is inflicted on us so that we can get pie in the sky when we die. It’s literally exactly what you’re saying.

No, I’m just saying that politics cannot replace God.

Curiously, the crusades, which were also a political endeavor, do not fall under the same logic (nor does banning abortion, for that matter). Because it was a ruling class endeavor. The ruling class’s boot is so far down your throat that you can’t even speak coherently.

It’s the ruling class who seems to criticise the Crusades and Christianity the most

“supplied above” when you haven’t even supplied them

specifically because he values them less

I think that’s because they weren’t angels literally sent from God, not because they were women 🙄 either that or he was exposing the sodomites for not being interested in women, but instead being interested in men

1. good for you to acknowledge lot’s christian misogyny! Lot begs a mob to rape his daughters to save his guests. Very christian(misogynist) and disgusting.

Easy for you to say, since you’re not in Lot’s position. So what, he should have been misandrist instead and let them rape the men? They didn’t even rape the daughters anyway, they were sodomites.

2. Lot drank some wine. You believe he was so drunk he didn’t realize his own daughters were having sex with him to completion for 48 hours? Ludicrous.

Having sex with a drunk person is rape.

and we know that in real life christians are pedophiles, rapists and murderers.

And we know that in real life atheists are paedophiles, rapists and murderers.

and we know that in real life muslims are paedophiles, rapists and murderers.

and we know that in real life satanists are paedophiles, rapists and murderers.

See? It’s almost as if such people exist in literally every group of humans that exist.

Jesus endorses misogyny, slavery and incest in “his” book, and so does anyone who worships his words.

Convenient not to give any more examples apart from what I’ve already debunked. Define “misogyny” while you’re at it.

So if I send a letter to a real person claiming that I’m god, does that make my claim immediately legitimate, or do we have to wait?

That’s not what the Bible is.

Maybe you should listen.

Not once did I advocate against helping the poor?

Yes, sometimes we have to endure defeat, indignities, and abuse, sometimes we must recognize a conflict as unwinnable in the current state of affairs, but that’s just a matter of surviving until that state of affairs can be changed. This is a practical, strategic calculation about how to win, it is not the same on giving up all hope of winning, of denouncing winning as immoral, and extolling the “virtue” of submission to authority. Surely you must understand this.

You will never win. No matter the system you will be oppressed until the Kingdom of Heaven comes.

Luke 6:20-26

And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said: “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. “Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you shall be satisfied. “Blessed are you who weep now, for you shall laugh. “Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you and revile you and spurn your name as evil, on account of the Son of Man! Rejoice in that day, and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in heaven; for so their fathers did to the prophets. “But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation. “Woe to you who are full now, for you shall be hungry. “Woe to you who laugh now, for you shall mourn and weep. “Woe to you, when all people speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets.

Luke 1:50-53

And his mercy is for those who fear him from generation to generation. He has shown strength with his arm; he has scattered the proud in the thoughts of their hearts; he has brought down the mighty from their thrones and exalted those of humble estate; he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty.

Don’t you mean the OSI model? ISO means International Standards Organisation lol

The joys of agile programming…

Cool. That describes most religions. So either you need to convert to basically every religion at once, or you need to raise your standards of evidence.

Eh, not really. The Bibe points to specific points in time, letters appear to be addressing actual people and sending greetings, etc. They also reference real people contemporary for it’s time. I haven’t found any other religious document that does this. The Gospels and Epistles read as eyewitness testimony.

Or the crusades, when the Byzantines asked the Church for help fighting the Muslims, and the crusaders sacked and looted Constantinople, leaving them more vulnerable?

That part wasn’t right, but I can see noble intentions behind the motivations.

Then you’ll be relieved to know that Marx never mandated any sort of atrocities, so that means Marxism has a totally clean record on that front.

I know.

Long haired preachers come out every night Try to tell you what’s wrong and what’s right But if you ask them for something to eat They will tell you in voices so sweet “You will eat, by and by, in that glorious land up in the sky! Work and pray, live on hay, you’ll get pie in the sky, when you die” - that’s a lie.

Jesus criticised this exact attitude.

Yeah, no thanks. If more people listened to your “submit to authority” bullshit, we’d still have chattel slavery. Fuck off with this bootlicking nonsense.

So you don’t submit to the authorities of the country you live in, then? What about your employer?

You don’t think I should care about politics? Well my boss and my landlord do, and every day they’re working to make my life worse. It’s long past time to start fighting back. We didn’t start the class war. We just recognize it exists.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t. I’m saying that politics shouldn’t be your god, which is a folly of most political systems

what Bible were you reading? He clearly unleashes a load of suffering on Job. Satan is the tempter of all evil

Yeah that’s very weird. Especially since being autistic isn’t exclusive to left wingers

I like how they used a menorah instead of a star of david

Victim blaming much?

Volodymyr Zelensky is deliberately setting conditions Russia can’t accept to portray it as blocking peace talks,

Isn’t that exactly what Russia did before the invasion???

Doesn’t wordpress already do this with an activitypub plugin?

whooosh

The Bible says Adam and Eve, not Florence and the Machine

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Also “we don’t like traditional Church buildings with beautiful architecture, we want to save money”

If you pretend jesus preaches pedophilia, violence and greed – I guess he does promote incest when lot fucks his daughters - then he is a pretty bad master, since some christians have sex with their own children and murder people but some don’t.

Lot was raped by his daughters. Are we victim blaming now?

You kind of remind me when ‘the right’ undermines the trans rights movement because a handful of mass shooters or sex offenders were transgender people.

Jesus, terrible teacher since all his greedy disciples are hoarding wealth in direct defiance of him. He has no control over his disciples.

Ohhhh, ohhh, you think?

Matthew 7:21-23

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Would be a bit of a shame if you thought you would be separated from them, just to be thrown in the same pit with them.

All the rest of that nonsense you are claiming about slavery have already debunked. You’re not rebutting my argument, just repeating the same claims I addressed mindlessly. If you really want me to demonstrate more that the Bible doesn’t promote these things, I will.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What evidence would you require to believe the Buddhist sutras that describe talking animals and flying monks? Probably more than hearsay, I’d imagine.

Eyewitness testimony. Said eyewitnesses literally dying on that hill helps. As well as a religious movement spontaneously and uncontrollably erupting from it.

Are you really going to make me bring up all the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity, then? The crusades, the inquisitions, the witch burnings, the wars of religion - all perfectly moral, apparently, because “secularism is needed to abolish morality.” What a load of crap.

For a start, were the crusades really an atrocity? And the inquisitions? They were fighting against Islam. I don’t think you’d prefer a caliphate over Christendom. The Bible doesn’t mandate witch burnings either. In fact, it was usually over superstitious nonsense which it condemns. What didn’t help is that people back then couldn’t actually read the Bible - probably the largest answer to your question, actually. So corrupt people in the Church had more control. Now your average layman can read the Bible and see Trump is in fact an antichrist. Many churches also condemned the witch hunts as superstition. That’s kind of like the right using instances of transgender people committing atrocities to invalidate all of them.

And if not capitalism, socialism, feudalism, or theocracy, then what is it exactly that you support?

None of these work. They all rely on humans. I don’t see a need to participate in that argument. Empires come and go. Whether they be feudal, theocratic, democratic or socialist. I’m more concerned with Christ’s eternal Kingdom. Christ didn’t preach an earthly political system, much to many people’s dismay at the time. All He did in regards to political systems was emphasising that people should submit to the authorities over them. So whether you live in Britain, Canada, America, China or Russia. As long as said submission doesn’t undermine or overtake your submission to God. You shall love the LORD your God with all of your heart. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it, you shall love your neighbour as yourself. These two commandments should govern the affairs of a Christian’s life.