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Cake day: August 17th, 2023

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  • It’s not really possible to give a concrete answer without a concrete definition of “understanding”. But unless you assume supernatural explanations, either systems must be able to “understand”, or humans are also incapable of “understanding”, since we ourselves are physical systems too.

    For instance I feel that a gravity coin sorter is made with understanding but does not have understanding

    I get the example and agree that such a coin sorter does not meaningfully have an understanding of gravity. But IMO it does have a (minimal) understanding of the different coins you’re sorting, since it contains a mechanism for differentiating between their sizes.

    Imagine we replaced the gravity mechanism with a bunch of actuators controlled by organic neurons, which are connected to something like an eye. The neurons fire and cause the actuators to sort the coins. Now, if say the neurons just react to brightness levels it’d be hard to argue there’s an understanding. But if the neurons are part of a real human brain, they can definitely understand the coins etc. and sort based on their understanding.

    As you take away more parts of said brain, when does it lose the understanding?







  • I’d like to add a rebuttal I tend to agree with: You’re only a component of a larger system, and the whole system (you + the room + your list of instructions) does encode some understanding, otherwise a chinese speaker wouldn’t be able to interact with the room in any meaningful way.

    In almost any system, you can look at a specific part and argue that part doesn’t fulfill a property that the entire system taken as one does.








  • Unfortunately I can’t take you seriously if you really think this:

    Are you telling me the people behind the decision to ban certain mods due to bigotry were holding a stance of “we are more than happy for you to publish your content, just not here for completely unrelated reasons” or are we being serious and we accept the fact that the stance is an explicit “these mods should not exist and we don’t want any part of them”?

    The “people behind the decision” are business people who were worried about ad revenue due to being associated with such mods. These people don’t give a fuck about the mod being available anywhere else as long as it doesn’t negatively affect their own bottom line. So yes, I’m telling you exactly that.


  • Du verstehst schon, dass durch Nutzung jeweils Kosten für Reinigung und Instandhaltung anfallen, und die Stadt den Preis damit rechtfertigt? Wenn Männer kostenfrei pinkeln können, werden diese Kosten auf die restlichen Männer und Frauen umgelegt.

    Wenn du dazu irgendein Argument hast, bitte her damit. Aber das ist ein Fakt, den du leider nicht einfach so abwinken kannst.

    Und jetzt werden die Anlagen hauptsächlich durch Frauen genutzt. Wie unfair! /s

    Wat? Wo kommt das jetzt her, und wie ist das auch nur im entferntesten relevant?

    Natürlich wäre es sinnvoll die Benutzung für alle kostenfrei zu machen. Aber die Gebühr dient (dort wo die Anlagen nicht ohnehin kostenfrei sind) eher zur schikanierung von Obdachlosen[…]

    Dann ist es doch umso schlimmer, wenn obdachlose Frauen keinen Zugang haben, nachdem Männer viel unproblematischer draußen Pinkeln können?!