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12 hours agoPatriotism is great because patriotism is about loving what a country stands for.
America no longer stands for freedom and justice for all. But anyone who loved those ideas before can still stand for them now.
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Cake day: June 13th, 2023
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Stop pretending you care about the Palestinians and working class people then.
You don’t. You care about you. The least you can do is own it so people who do know not to imitate you.
Orang laddie beat up that banan boi for me!
Yep. I don’t understand this fetish for decorum.
With Obama I posit he had to overcome racism and Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary Clinton.
Quit running defense for a Party that was already staging Genocide before Joe was in charge:
I’m arguing for the most useful strategy during elections. Which you did by voting for Harris. Other people on here are still arguing against this.
No one has to like the Democrats. They’re our most useful tool until some socialist or progressive co-opts the Democratic party. edit: typo
When Bernie can win States’ popular vote and lose it because of Party-appointed “super delegates” in 2016? That’s not fucking Democracy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Bernie lost the popular vote.
And Biden promised to be a 1-term president.
A promise he should have followed through on every step of the way.
Fuck you. Sincerely, and deeply.
The neoliberal you’re shadow boxing lives in your head. edit: typo
101·14 hours ago🫶 10/10 Would reject kitty’s application again. 🫶
Because a couple of generations have passed. It’s wrong to displace the Palestinians. It’s wrong to displace the Israelis. It’s wrong to displace people. There is no more correct place for people to be living then where they are right now.
Israel must return to the 1967 borders.
Sure. Though we can’t quite know if even that’s true as she did not become president.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to. We cannot look into an alternate timeline.
Former presidents do not have power over current presidents.
We can look at her public statements. And those compared to this make it clear Biden was definitely worse
https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel
At this crucial juncture, Biden undercut Obama again. After Clinton’s ultimatum, the vice president—who was still traveling in the Middle East—contacted Netanyahu himself. In their book Our Separate Ways: The Struggle for the Future of the U.S.-Israel Alliance, Dana Allin and Steve Simon describe Biden’s discussion with the Israeli prime minister as “a conciliatory call” that had the effect of “undercutting Clinton and reinforcing Israel’s generally dismissive approach to the administration’s periodically tough messaging.” An administration official remembers being “astonished” upon seeing the transcript of the conversation: “Biden completely undercut the secretary of state and gave Bibi a strong indication that whatever was being planned in Washington was hotheadedness and he could defuse it when he got back.” When Clinton saw the transcript, the official recalls, she “realized she’d been thrown under the bus.”
Biden’s been derailing US foreign policy on the Israel since he was vp.
Was still pretty much the biggest self-sabotaging way of communicating that sentiment in the campaign.
Yes.
They are being misquoted. That was a Biden quote used to say that Harris had the same position Biden. Which is a lie.
Harris had distinct positions on Israel. Biden telling her to have the same positions doesn’t mean she had the same positions.
Harris’ refusal to break from Biden on the campaign trail and the DNC consultants sunk her campaign into the ground.
Harris would have plenty of room to break from Biden once he was out of the White House.
This is what I mean when I say Biden was a life long Zionist. He was actively sabotaging US foreign policy since he was VP.
https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel
At this crucial juncture, Biden undercut Obama again. After Clinton’s ultimatum, the vice president—who was still traveling in the Middle East—contacted Netanyahu himself. In their book Our Separate Ways: The Struggle for the Future of the U.S.-Israel Alliance, Dana Allin and Steve Simon describe Biden’s discussion with the Israeli prime minister as “a conciliatory call” that had the effect of “undercutting Clinton and reinforcing Israel’s generally dismissive approach to the administration’s periodically tough messaging.” An administration official remembers being “astonished” upon seeing the transcript of the conversation: “Biden completely undercut the secretary of state and gave Bibi a strong indication that whatever was being planned in Washington was hotheadedness and he could defuse it when he got back.” When Clinton saw the transcript, the official recalls, she “realized she’d been thrown under the bus.”
This is not the same as supporting a two-state solution.
What does any of this have to do with the Democrats being the correct choice in 2024 and being the correct choice in the next two elections if we have them?
There are still people advocating for not voting after it is now clear that was the wrong choice.
(Voted for her too, btw, I’m mad her rhetoric didn’t let me bring friends)
If that’s not you then you shouldn’t have a problem with this.
And if we don’t?
Then voting wont be an option.
We’ve had real primaries since 2008.
What does that have to with anything? Harris was never under any obligation to follow that instruction once she became president.
The people who fed these talking points to Americans were Russian bot farms. Harris is not a life long Zionist. Biden is.
Biden had single-handedly been undermining US foreign policy since he was vice president. He undercut the US position in a private call with Benjamin Netanyahu when the US was trying to leverage Israel into behaving. edit: typo
https://jewishcurrents.org/joe-bidens-alarming-record-on-israel
At this crucial juncture, Biden undercut Obama again. After Clinton’s ultimatum, the vice president—who was still traveling in the Middle East—contacted Netanyahu himself. In their book Our Separate Ways: The Struggle for the Future of the U.S.-Israel Alliance, Dana Allin and Steve Simon describe Biden’s discussion with the Israeli prime minister as “a conciliatory call” that had the effect of “undercutting Clinton and reinforcing Israel’s generally dismissive approach to the administration’s periodically tough messaging.” An administration official remembers being “astonished” upon seeing the transcript of the conversation: “Biden completely undercut the secretary of state and gave Bibi a strong indication that whatever was being planned in Washington was hotheadedness and he could defuse it when he got back.” When Clinton saw the transcript, the official recalls, she “realized she’d been thrown under the bus.”
The context matters. That doesn’t mean it has the right to exist as an apartheid state. She wants a two state solution. Which should be the goal.
No amount of misquoting is getting anyone out of the fact she was the correct choice in 2024.
I dug through my comment history to find this. It has plenty of links.
I read it. Democrats will keep playing the left for fools and moving to the right, no matter what happens.
No Bernie’s campaign and Warren’s campaign drove Biden to the left on a whole host of issues, including labor unions.
There was no daylight between her and Biden on Netanyahu’s genocide.
Don’t lie.
This comment said it best and lists calls for a ceasefire from Harris.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13069715
She’s taken a stance, multiple times. The left doesn’t want to hear it.
March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas
July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315
Harris promised to do everything in her power to end the war in Gaza.
“This year has been difficult, given the scale of death and destruction in Gaza and given the civilian casualties and displacement in Lebanon, it is devastating. And as president, I will do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza, to bring home the hostages, end the suffering in Gaza, ensure Israel is secure, and ensure the Palestinian people can realise their right to dignity, freedom, security and self-determination,” Harris said to applause during a rally in East Lansing city of Michigan, home to 200,000 Arab Americans.
Unlike Biden, Harris was not a life long Zionist.
When Joe Biden met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet during his visit to Israel, the U.S. president assured them: “I don’t believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist.”
Harris wasn’t perfect. And that was simply not good enough for some people who didn’t want to risk their hands getting dirty. Even if it meant the Palestinians becoming the cost of doing business.
I voted for Harris and the election is over. That doesn’t mean I’m going to pretend that she wasn’t as committed to Netanyahu’s genocide as Biden was.
Good for you. I appreciate it. No need to spread propaganda though.
If we have another election vote in it. Vote for the Democrat candidates. Fill out the ballot with a pen. No larping fan fiction necessary.
It’s not subjective. That’s an obvious lie. Everyone is being harmed more under Trump than they would be under Harris.
People needed to vote for the not fascist candidate in a choice between a not fascist candidate and a fascist candidate.
It’s not hard. Learn the lesson or die to fascists. People will be too dead to be alienated.
No it was people who didn’t want to vote for Kamala Harris. Everyone who doesn’t work at the DNC needs to learn that lesson. Everyone who works at the DNC has a different set of lessons to learn. Like be a socialist and abandon neoliberalism.
The fact that we had a choice of someone other than Biden was incredible from a political standpoint. It’s laughable more people weren’t jumping at the chance to elect the candidate who wasn’t a lifelong, diehard Zionist.
This is a non-sequitur. There’s nothing stopping someone from seeing what a country stands for and how it has failed to live up to those ideals. People can in fact walk and talk.
No one has to ignore our history or pretend the prison industrial complex doesn’t exist to understand that we stood for equality. In fact, it’s the other way around. It’s the people who ignore and even rewrite our history who fail to understand America is a melting pot.
Except there are massive examples of it succeeding. The US ended slavery and gave voting rights to women. So it is your argument arguing with reality.
When we lose sight of the fact our country stood for something we end up in a nationalist christo-fascist dictatorship. Championing freedom and justice for all is how we stave off the division employed by fascists.
Pretending the US didn’t stand for anything is an agreement with the fascists. They believe America has always been a white christian nation state and now it is one. Your argument is agreeing with their lie. The only way to defeat the fascists is to believe in the truth.