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That’s the fucking point.

You think making opposition to fascism a criminal offense is a distraction from releasing the files that we already know the man is in?

This is why we are fucking doomed. Get a grip.

Don’t know if I should feel vindicated after years of warning people about this and being mocked and derided and banned, or if I’m just sad that we’re allowing this to happen.

It’s some bizarre mixture of the two, but sadness definitely makes up the bulk.

So you’re telling me that they don’t adhere to traditional gender norms? Smh

A male bald eagle that believes it’s a female? This is like prime Fox News outrage fuel.

It was also kind of like,really pro-eugenics.

Gross

She’s not harassing an innocent student.

and

I do empathize with that guy as well

are contradictory statements

No they’re not.

Empathizing with the guy who programmed it: An unprovoked, targeted campaign of rape threats, death threats and harassment (and the media/legal storm that follows) against another person, all because of some little thing you coded for fun in your free time (again, giving benefit of the doubt)? And then being dragged into all of this? Yeah, I empathize like a motherfucker .

You dont think there are any leftists out here criticising the billionaire for being one the most directly polluting people on the planet?

No, I think the only people who give a shit about this are right wing concern trolls.

Based on the way you’ve been spelling words, it would seem you’re not actually from the US. Perhaps if you lived here, you would understand the real and actual danger this kind of stochastic terrorism as we’re seeing it every single day. Taylor Swift is a figure who has just recently become a major target of hate and actual legitimate death/rape threats from the right because she encouraged young people to vote (no, I wish I was kidding). I don’t think she even endorsed a candidate.

The GOP is so terrified of her; this is a half-assed, stochastic call to violence against a young woman who has done nothing, and this tool has gone way far beyond basic “FAA transparency,” and into tool to target and potentially ruin the lives of people who do not deserve it.

(In case anyone didn’t see my previous comment: not only am I not a Taylor Swift fan, I don’t think I could name more than one or two songs. And if a song of hers came on the radio, I wouldn’t be able to know if it was her or not)

Lol yeah dude that’s definitely “all you were saying”. You’re being such a reasonable interlocutor 🙄

She’s not harassing an innocent student. I don’t think it really matters to her who created it. She is just doing the one thing she can do that would maybe give her a fraction of a feeling of security back into her life. Something that I bet most of us, including you, would do. A student being involved is irrelevant.

And yeah, I do empathize with that guy as well. Assuming they didn’t create the app specifically for these types of people to be able to harass and endanger her more easily. Which he may have, I don’t really know all the details.

Isn’t that crazy? Empathizing with both people in a situation? Wild right?

Also, this pretending that it’s about giving her shit because of the environmental impact, give me a fucking break. Let’s not waste everyone’s time with that bullshit. Conservatives only “believe” in climate change, when they can use it as a cudgel against someone they feel threatened by. Actually a textbook fascist move (this isn’t a joke, it really is).

I would bet my next paycheck that Taylor Swift gets at least one order of magnitude more death threats on a daily basis than Elon Musk. At least.

Let’s just say there are certain demographics that tend to lash out in that manner, and they seem to overlap quite a bit with Musk fans.

And yeah dude, I get it. They’re billionaires, it’s hard to empathize. I agree to a point that they should shut the fuck up and just wipe their tears away with $100 bills. But in this case, when we’re talking about legitimate threats against her life constantly, by people who have shown to be very capable of carrying out such threats, then I can start to see why she is doing what she’s doing. Just because she’s got money doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve to live a life free from that kind of fear.

That’s all.

Lmao swift stans are actually neurotic.

FYI (because apparently this needs to be said), I’ve never once purposefully listened to a Taylor Swift song, and besides maybe two, I couldn’t even tell you if a pop song currently playing is her or not. That’s how little I care about this person’s art/music. My feelings toward her can be described as, at most, ambivalent. I’m definitely neurotic though, but that’s unrelated to this subject.

All I’m doing is empathizing with another human being. Billionaires might be (for the most part, though I’m not sure I can imagine a more ethical way to become one than how she has) awful people, but they’re still people and they deserve basic human rights such as: not being in 24/7 fear for the lives of you and your loved ones because fascists are mad that she told young people to vote.

I’m not even advocating for taking down the site or making the info no longer publicly available. I’m literally just putting myself in her shoes and rationalizing why she did what she did and understanding that I might have done the same.

We seem to be having two completely different conversations here, which I guess I shouldn’t be surprised about given that you clearly can’t comprehend nuance. Your clear hatred for this woman is clouding your ability to be a decent human. Do better.

So you think it’s perfectly moral for the ultra wealthy to abuse the legal system to threaten and bully random people into submission because they are ruining the billionaires image?

Lol yeah bud, that’s what I said.

Dude, I understand it’s public information. I understand that current law (probably rightfully) allows air traffic to be tracked, including private jets.

I was simply doing something that you’re clearly incapable of, and empathizing (you remember empathy right?) with her position. A position that is markedly different than Musk’s, given that she receives a constant stream of legitimate death threats from people known to be violent; she has valid reason to fear for her life right now. I think I would probably do similar in such a situation.

I don’t think it’s “wrong” for her to seek to do what she can to protect herself, and that includes this.

The argument that “what they’re doing is legal” is pretty stupid too… I’m not even saying that I disagree that it should be legal, but how do you think laws change? The boundaries of them get tested in courts. This is not an abuse of the legal system, this is using it as intended.

Less tools and more slave labor.

How does this make her “actions wrong”? Because you disagree?

Yes, it’s legal for him to do what he’s doing, but it is also legal (and completely reasonable) for Swift to challenge that right because she fears for her safety. This is literally what our legal system is for.

There are a lot of insane people out there (and most of them tracking Swift’s plane at this moment are right wing psychopaths that wish her harm). I really can’t fucking blame her for wanting to do something about it.

“When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”

How are we still letting cops just turn off body cams? It defeats the entire fucking purpose.

Go back and read the UN Convention on Genocide, as this most certainly is that. Unquestionably.

This is one of the reasons I just love Stephen King’s mind. Dude is fucking insane. We’re lucky to have him.

One big thing I love about my Steam Deck is the ridiculous amount of control customization available with Steam input.

Worst case, if there’s no option to invert in the game, you can change it in Steam with one click and it’ll remember your settings for each game.

Yes, and we all know that was the intention behind this order. To protect people from incorrect medical reporting 🙄.

The people you’re seemingly mad at never wanted to make this political. Trans people are just people that want to exist. That’s it.

I’ve had this exact same epiphany after having arguments with my parents about politics… Like, “You made me this way!”