the illustration is a bit of an oversimplification, but I think a redeemable takeaway is that the rhetoric changes depending on which side (western) capital is supporting.

From what I read thru some of the devs posts and drama on Lemmygrad, hexbear, etc, it’s complicated. Like, not super important for 99% of ppl to care about. My takeaway at the end was, yes the devs and the mission for Lemmy (and federation in general) is an inherently anticapitalist, or at least anti-monopoly, venture. Many first adopters were infosec/IT folks, ppl who could help build and give feedback, ofc, and were also ideologically aligned/adjacent. Basically, devs said that for this platform to have a chance at growing and being an alternative to privately controlled platforms, it can’t just be a politics debate playground; they wanted, needed, liberals to join and make their own instances, and help it grow. Which is happening and good!

I suppose this is a PSA as to who is building the true (imo) private* free speech digital platforms. It’s not liberals.

🫪 I am in enemy territory /s

Yes they (we) can be annoying, no lie there.

But are folks aware of who is building Lemmy? Like, who the devs are, their goals, etc.?

I think the main obstacle is finding the energy to do this. All of the energy that is accessible to us on Earth comes from the Sun, in one way or another (deep sea critters notwithstanding). If this robot can die, which it would have to for this to be indefinite, then it’s possible (eventually it would run out of iron, technically) if it could recycle old parts.

Ofc, a fossil fueled process is not indefinite, it would have to use a combination of clean energy to get through all the unique challenges of each method.

Honestly, this is kind of a first principles thermodynamics problem that applies to humanity in a similar way, one we are not answering with sustainability in mind… No way around the Laws of Thermo!

Right, I’m not saying she somehow was working behind the scenes to provoke an attack, just that at a time when she was being pressured by people like Milton Friedman to privatize-max, she couldn’t just make British taxpayers buckle down for austerity for seemingly no reason. The war then became a “good” reason to justify people contributing to the war effort. At least that’s my understanding from Naomi Klein’s “The Shock Doctrine.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/01/us-feared-falklands-war-documents?intcmp=122http

You do know the only reason Lemmy exists for you to freely speak on, is because of explicitly anticapitalist devs toiling to combat the gross shit for-profit digital platforms are doing? Just making sure.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/01/us-feared-falklands-war-documents?intcmp=122http

Above and beyond to prevent war is a misleading simplification…

“I’m not gonna engage in the theater”

Proceeds to make it more and more theatrical with every word

^^

Oh yes, 100%. Just another case of regular people being used as pawns for the interests of the elite ig

I thought the whole Falkland Islands war in the 80s was mainly as an outlet for Thatcher to rally people behind and justify austerity, which was wanted by the neoliberal admin to distract from the privatization making things more expensive.

Idk, while yes trump is delusional, I can think of a lot more unfit politicians for high office than fit ones.

Haha, I mean, I’m not really disagreeing with your sentiment that the US has caused unprecedented suffering, domestically and abroad. Duh. But the math isn’t mathing; democracy is clearly eroding in the US. We don’t have proportional representation, corporations fight policies at the fuckin municipal level, power is just not actually in the hands of the people. It only looks like the citizens voted for this if one thinks the people have at least as much power as capital. Trump is not popular, yet he is in power. I see Trump as a natural continuation of what happens over time when capital crushes unions, guts social services, replaces anything and everything possible with a for-profit option. Not natural as in good, but can we really be surprised? It woulda been more surprising if Harris had won, imo, and it’s not like we woulda stopped funding the Palestinian genocide, or “securing” the southern border.

It sounds more like you are the one who is butthurt and content on pointing fingers in a direction that isn’t at the top. I’d bet my left nut that Canadian capital isn’t complaining about the dominance of capital in general. Idk if I’d put Canada on that much a higher pedestal.

I’m not saying “don’t be mad at the US” or anything like that. But you opened with charged language of “fuck 'em all” and whatnot. I get that the actions of Trump has been negatively effecting Canada and the rest of the world, as the US is the global hegemon and the world runs on the US dollar. I’m saying THAT is the problem. While we struggle within the US against this, it makes it actively harder to resist when the rest of the world accepts the “protection” of US empire.

So… No? But yes to genocide of the people in the US? Still confused as to why you’re so angry towards the struggling, deliberately misguided and exploited working class people instead of the capitalist elite.

Do you think all Germans should’ve been genocided because of the Nazi’s actions?

Pour one out for international solidarity ig

Under global capitalism, ofc there’s gonna be a brutal top dawg, that’s the name of the game, and yes, American capital has been unimagineably violent. But not without an inner circle that gets a dash of the spoils, too. That’s what that other guy was saying. Nations that have good trade deals with the US, simply materially benefit from the exploitation of the global south.

We’re on a knife edge, of capital being threatened with a crisis it doesn’t really know how to get itself out of. Not without violence and repression, at least. These moments are also windows of opportunity, when capital shows its face, as a genocidal engine. Don’t do their work for them, sheesh.

I think I’m thinking of the same thing, and it turns out the “aliens” that the WH was referring to were the “illegal immigrants” taking all the jobs or whatever tf. Disgusting behavior. On the official WH site!!

I stg I thought I was going nuts, seems lots of ppl were desparate for anyone that has a crumb of charisma and reformist positions to the point of glossing over those tattoos and his private merc past. No one was arguing really for his arrest or anything, just whether THIS was the best we could do. And now this… I just am not surprised.

Here I thought not SAing was easy. Huh?

Used to use Brave, but I read some shady stuff and hate the crypto. I’ve switched to Startpage, as far as I know they’re doing good and gets the job done for me.