• Hoimo@ani.social
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      Yeah, it’s been a slow decline over many years, and it’s been painful to watch, but it’s also very hard to turn a ship as big as the US.

      I think it’s unfair to blame present-day Americans for the current state of affairs, when millions of Americans in 2003 protested the Iraq War and didn’t get any result, when the DHS was already cracking down on peaceful protests in 2012 and since then it’s been 4 years of an openly fascist government who’d never be swayed by protest, followed by 4 years of “healing” (but mostly pandemic). And I wouldn’t say the Americans have been complacent in the last year, it’s the most chaotic shit I’ve ever seen, with already 2 political assassinations and a string of massive protests.

      It’s easy to think people did more in the past, but we only get the highlights in the history books. An assassination defines a decade. It takes years of organizing to get a victory.

      So don’t blame the current generation, America’s been pretty fascist for 25+ years and very resistant to change. I just hope this is their opportunity to change it for the better.

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        Decades? USA has been manifesting destiny since before it was established and never has truly reformed from those times and never wanted to.

        The majority of americans have believed themselves ubermensch before the concept and before the nation, and continue to do so.

    • Flames5123@sh.itjust.works
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      How the fuck did I help? I gathered signatures for the 2020 primaries in Mississippi. I moved from Mississippi to Washington to get out of the cesspool. I got involved in my local elections. I canvassed for my local progressive politicians. I went to protests to be a part of one of the largest American protests of my generation. It’s not my fault that I wasn’t born in Africa to an emerald mine family to be able to buy large media corporations and spew bullshit and buy elections. It’s not my fault that people are corrupt up top.

      This is giving major “yet you participate in society” vibes.

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        That’s amazing, we need more people like you to do all that work. It just seems like, rather than taking the opinions of people online so personally, we should take what’s going on personally. It sounds like you worked your butt off to inform people and encourage them to vote and do the right things, but we still ended up here. We fail as a whole, and we succeed as a whole. Right now we’re failing.

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          The person above said “we all helped in some way” so that’s why I was replying to them. I know I’m in the margin of people actually trying to involve myself in local politics and fighting my way up.

          It’s just exhausting and disheartening when the world looks down on me when I say I’m American because I’m born where I was, but I’m trying to make this place better and fighting all I can. I’m ashamed to be American as much as I can be, but I’m not leaving because I can still fight.

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        Agreed, no singular action got us here, and no singular action will fix it. I’d like to believe, independently we all mean well and thought we were doing enough. As a whole, we did not. No one person is going to fix this, we need to work together to make this better, regardless of who we feel us at fault. Saying sorry or yelling “not it!” helped get us here. Let’s all be part of the solution, being complacent is exacerbating the problem.