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sentences that smell like privilege
In the US at least prisoners do not really have a choice of reading material. Men in prison get jacked and read what they can get their hands on which is not necessarily what they might want to read. This is a good DB. Prisoners might also have to pay to read if it’s digital. I would personally contend that it’s harder to read in jail than prison but I don’t have a good study for that. More people go through jail than prison so the ability to read is much lower overall.
The rest of the world might treat prisoners a little more like human beings so I don’t know if this works outside of the US.
For those unaware of the difference, everyone in prison has been found guilty and sentenced for a crime, jail is typically where people are incarcerated before being tried and/or sentenced.
An officer can literally arrest you on whatever charges they might make up on the spot and take you to jail, and depending on a number of specifics you may simply not have many options to leave jail before your trial which is often many months later. I think there’s some form of protection against this sometimes but I’m not well versed enough on the subject to know for sure and make a general statement
Yes, but men in literal prison don’t have to worry about neither rent nor mortgage.
Really makes you think of the old dilemma of “freedom versus security”, huh?
Or food or healthcare or heat or air conditioning or being late. Hmm
Non stop work and exhaustion that comes with it in order to have a place to live is a barrier so bad take.
Men in literal prison tend to have more time on their hands than people with jobs.
You can always help the world to become a better place and go kill billionaires until you end up in prison where you get jacked and read books. I don’t see a single flaw with this plan.
They didn’t say it didn’t come with any other downsides, to be fair.
For legal reasons I reject this proposition most vehemently.
Actually in most of the US prisoners are explicitly required or just “encouraged” to work (“More than three quarters of incarcerated people surveyed (76%) report facing punishment—such as solitary confinement, denial of sentence reductions, or loss of family visitation—if they decline to work.”) And of course if they get compensated at all it’s typically literal pennies per hour. https://news.uchicago.edu/story/us-prison-labor-programs-violate-fundamental-human-rights-new-report-finds
But you’re right that the lack of alternative leisure time activities definitely encourages getting jacked and reading.
You can’t really compare incarcerated people with US state slaves.
Actually, I (and most likely the user you replied to, since we’re both on a German server) don’t live in the US and while prison labor does exist here, it’s certainly not as strongly encouraged as it is apparently in the US.
Good info, though.
Friendly reminder that you, a free man with a job, are paying for men in prison to get jacked and read books.
We live in a society.
That’s ok, they’re having it hard enough, they deserve some relief
Fuck, if we don’t have a better plan than imprisoning someone then I’m gonna be pissed if we don’t offer them opportunities to improve their education and health while they’re locked up. I would like functioning members of society for the society I live in please
Exactly, I want the worst society does to people to be reasonably bearable. I want it to try to improve the lives of all people in it
There is full coverage health care and, classes. In addition, the prison system is the #1 provider of mental health services in the United States. Statistically, the women in the system avail themselves of those services, mental and medical, 3x as often as the men.
In addition, the prison system is the #1 provider of mental health services in the United States.
That’s really more of an indictment of US health care, isn’t it
Considering its not great service being provided typically through the prison system… Its a massive indictment of the horror show that is US healthcare, yes.
US-defaultism
I can confirm that they did indeed reply to a comment from a non-American too
I’m neither a man nor do I have a job (disability). Even if that were the case, I don’t see your point?
It’s not a point, it’s a (humorous) observation. No offense was intended with a public comment meant for everyone to read.
I don’t see the humour but you do you.
I think it would be kind of you to edit your comment to avoid calling that person a man
And fewer options for activities. Would prisoners be as likely to choose exercise and reading if they had the option to instead play video games all day?
Edit: I retract this comment, I think it might come across the wrong way, because tone doesn’t translate to text very well.
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime…
I don’t know what INT is but gzzz on 99 strength. Did you get your skill cape?
Int is intelligence
Ironically, arguably not being in prison prevents them from doing that. When your basic needs are taken care of (and assuming you aren’t in a state which still allows mandatory prison labor), you have a lot more latitude for choosing how to spend your time.
so you think you can just trick me, by making sense? yeah nice try, you’re not destroying my gaming time!
They didn’t say anyone was preventing them from doing this, they just expressed a desire. I don’t understand why you would go on the offensive for such a tame post, even if it is a bit cringe.
While I know the big takeaway in the comments here is “it’s easy to do when you don’t have a job”, it’s also worth highlighting the various options to spend time in general and how being in prison changes that decision making process.
I know a lot of people who complain. About not having money, not being in shape, not having the time to do what they want, always feeling anxious and depressed. And I don’t mean to undermine that- material conditions can be very real, you cannot simply budget your way out of poverty, and mental health is a real issue to be treated professionally.
But I do think there is also room to reflect on our habits, decisions, and environment. Right now I could be working out or reading a book, and instead I’m on Lemmy looking at memes and commenting. How many hours have I wasted in the past on social media? How many hours have I wasted watching video essays on things I can’t remember? How many hours did I waste watching all of the Marvel movies and TV shows through Endgame because my wife’s friend was insistent we HAVE to watch them all and they’re great (spoiler: they were all pretty much soulless forulaic corporate cash grabs).
How much time and money do we spend going to bars and restaurants? How much time spent sitting in cars or buses or trains or planes? How much time with my face in some mobile game to kill time?
I don’t bring these up to say none of us should ever do those things, but I think a lot of people need to look at their priorities. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve noticed the people around me who seem the most dissatisfied with their personal lives are also the ones who never make time to get to “lower” priorities. Sometimes it’s the sheer financial truth that people need to work several jobs and basically dedicate their entire lives to chasing income. But other times people are trying to maintain too many relationships. Too many friends and friend groups, not enough time spent on maintaining or improving their self. It’s a balance everyone needs to find, but I feel like social media (especially for-profit platforms) has driven a lot of people to be dependent on the constant stimulation and validation that comes from constant connection to several other people.
Tbh, your own body can prevent you from doing the former.
