tl;dr…city spent $1.5 million to install, halted construction, is removing most of what’s been installed, costing $500k to remove.
Even cyclists didn’t like them, apparently…
Just for clarity, the city is removing the bollards that were just installed, not the actual bike lane. When you watch the video, you can hear at least some of the feedback they were given.
One of them is from a cyclist, and I kind of understand their perspective. They claim that the bollards present an opportunity for cyclists to get injured, either catching their handlebars or hitting, but I’ll be honest, it seems a hell of a lot safer than having those multi-lanes of high-speed traffic right beside you.
When plastic bollards act as a deterrent for motorists who think they can encroach into a bike lane, I think anything is better than nothing.
I think the worst part about this is that they’re willing to basically not even give them a chance. They’re tearing them down before they’ve even completed construction, which tells me that there could be a bit of “change is bad” mentality going on without even trying.
They’re giving in to road-raging SUV-driving MAGAdiots, which are abundant in Vista and most of north SD County.
It’s a fucking 3 minute video, how about you watch it before you get on your high horse? Cyclist don’t like it because vertical obstructions can affect them and it does nothing to stop car influence
I watched it. I agree. It’s conservative idiots. The reasons the single cyclist who actually gets to say anything gives are ridiculous. Cyclists routinely avoid all sorts of obstructions without issue. It’s not hard to not catch your handlebars on a bollard in a 4 foot wide bike lane. And while the bollards wouldn’t stop a driver intent on murdering a cyclist, they will do a lot to keep drivers more alert of where their space ends and the cyclists’ begins, stopping them from absentmindedly drifting into the bike lane.
Of course, there’s a lot to criticize about the bike lanes. But the only real explaination for so much public outcry isn’t legitimate concerns about safety, but culture war bullshit.
For any bike lane project, no matter how well designed, there will always be that one vehicular cyclist type spouting a lot of nonsense. Of course the TV news features that one person, not the professional transport planners nor the multitudes of cyclists in support of the project. Not every news story needs to have two sides.
(Also, the bike lane is wider than 4’.)
Ok, nice way to ignore all of your original comment. What does any of this have to do with crazy SUV drivers? The bike lanes are still there. The separation is still there. There’s no pushback on that. You’re just being angry for the sake of being angry and that helps nothing. As far as the information presented, it’s just cyclists pushing for adjustment
Those types of protected bike lanes get built up with detritus and are often never street swept or cleaned out. Cities seemingly do not plan for ongoing maintenance.
I live in San Diego, and bike a lot. These bike lanes are all over San Diego. They have small street sweepers that fit in there to clean them.
The City of Vista is a community that is part of the urban San Diego landscape, and a couple of decades back it was somewhat rural, which was changed by the suburban sprawl. However, there are still a lot of rednecks that live there, and bike lanes are often viewed by these folks as “liberal bullshit”, and blame them for displacing car lanes and parking.
While the video notes that some unspecified bike users don’t like the lanes, I’m highly skeptical of that. I ride in similar lanes all over San Diego, and they are a godsend, as they do a good job of keeping cars separated from bikes. A more likely explanation is that the “bikers” complaining are typical conservative rednecks that hate bike lanes in general, and not the people that actually use bike lanes.
bike lanes are often viewed by these folks as “liberal bullshit”, and blame them for displacing car lanes and parking.
I don’t understand how “traveling using your muscles” became less “manly” than “sitting on your ass”.
Someone who rides up a big hill on a bike? Fit. Impressive. Admirable.
Someone who drives a car? Boring. Passé. Dull.
I don’t understand how “traveling using your muscles” became less “manly” than “sitting on your ass”.
Same reason sitting on one’s fat ass watching football is more manly than running a 10k.
Things cannot be manly if they don’t cause any pollution. If you’re traveling without owning the libs with your diesel truck rolling coal, what is even the point of traveling?
I think it’s considered manly because of the power dynamic of ypu having control over something that could easily kill you
I see how people might think that.
Personally I think power is… Let me quote from classic web comic the order of the stick:
Power, it isn’t something that you put on or take off like a jacket. It’s something you just ARE.
If you can lose it by blowing two Will saves, you never really had any power in the first place, see what I’m saying?
Thinking you’re powerful because you have a big car is foolish
Most cities, suburbs, and small towns don’t/won’t buy anything special to clean them. It is a real problem.
Nah I know plenty of riders in the area that dislike them because they’d rather ride in the street than have a dumbass driver lose even more control getting popped into the air when they hit the little shitty barriers and crush them. Some of the as lanes in the county are alright but these are bad for everyone involved.
USAian cyclists man… you can’t make this shit up.
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