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This is just their way of saying they want state sponsored backdoors into all private home networks.
They don’t want to, they already have it and just don’t want people to be able to avoid it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
requiring that telecommunications carriers and manufacturers of telecommunications equipment modify and design their equipment, facilities, and services to ensure that they have built-in capabilities for targeted surveillance
Or, guess what, the next thing will be that all new domestically produced routers will require ID verification before they’ll connect.
every 6 hours.
Honestly would’ve fit perfectly in that movie, but the verification can doesn’t have electrolytes.
With screenshots of your systems sent and analyzed by ai
… does America even manufacture routers?
We don’t lol
Electronics manufacture of any kind has been heavily outsourced since at least 1995.
That only means we’re going to take over a country that makes routers.
Time to dust off the old US Robotics 14.4k sportster.
Next up, foreign VPNs and shortwave radios are illegal to use.
Then phone calls are restricted.
Then international mail has to be inspected and censored.
All hail Chairman Trump!
USA USA 👊🇺🇸🔥
Consumer grade.
Because if they try and ban cisco they’ll collapse
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Not manufactured in the US
I can understand the FTC being involved because trade. But the FCC? Maybe regulatory authority over WiFi? But this seems like massive over reach.
Remember when conservatives claimed to support smaller government?
Remember when conservatives claimed to support smaller government?
I only remember when conservatives lied everytime they opened their mouths.
Yeah, Reagan was always talking about small government, and then he blew up the deficit with unchecked spending. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How about the bit where they say home routers have to be approved by the DHS or the “Department of War”? This is not normal.
I mean… “Small government” Republicans were always demonstrably lying, as far back as any of them have been alive. Every one of them just wanted to shift money from things that support people to the pockets of their donors.
But in fact USA and Israel are the countries that spy on anyone. I am more concern about USA and Israel spying than from India and China. In this point in history USA and Israel are the enemy of the world.
All countries spy on each other.
I definitely agree about being more worried about the US spying than China though.
i dont even know how this is going to work out in practice - who’s going to start making routers in the US?
VPNs? I don’t understand your question.
so wrote too soon i meant routers. no one physically makes them here
Awesome. So what used to be a $50 router is about to be a $150 router. Great.
And it’s going to suck BALLS
$150 will get you a mini PC that you can run OPNsense on. Hopefully they don’t ban WiFi access points next.
there is not much wifi access points that are not routers at the same time and i doubt that said regulation would make such a minor a distinction.
also keep in mind that the news articles are specifically talking about tp-link products.
unfortunately we can only guess, because only official document i have found is as vague as the news reports.
https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist
Routers^ produced in a foreign country, except routers which have been granted a Conditional Approval by DoW or DHS.
There are. Just need to shop in the business side of the store and not consumer. At worst pro-sumer.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that this is a law to:
- get bribes or favors from telecom equipment manufacturers.
- Create a framework to force backdoors into consumer equipment.
- Force users to use ISP provided equipment.
ISP provided equipment is also made outside of the US. This affects way more than just telecom stuff
Manufactured probable cause.
The excuse that it’s for security reasons just immediately falls apart when you get to this part of the article:
The notice from the FCC states that companies can apply for conditional approval for new products from the Department of War or the Department of Homeland Security. However, that requires the businesses to provide a plan for shifting at least some of their manufacturing to the US in order to receive that conditional approval.
So it’s fine to supposedly threaten national security if you do some more manufacturing in the US? Uh-huh. How does that balance out exactly?
The unwritten part is where Trump gets a free gold plated golf cart or some other stupid shit to sweeten the deal.
Its grift allllll the way down.
If foreign made routers pose a severe cybersecurity risk then why would you let the current ones on the market stay? If they were truly a problem you’d remove them from the market, not grandfather them.
But like everything with this capricious administration the real reason they’re doing this is probably because someone greased their palms.
This only applies to routers.
It’s not widely known outside the ham radio community, but part of the 2.4GHz wifi band overlaps the 13cm amateur radio band. If you turn off 5GHz wifi and lock the 2.4GHz AP to Channel 1, it qualifies as a ham radio, and can be sold as a ham radio instead of an AP/Router. You do need a ham radio license to operate it as a Ham AP, but you do not need a license to buy a Ham AP.
If the end user wants to turn on 5GHz after the fact, there is not a damn thing the FCC can do about it.
But you can’t run encryption on it. So that means no WEP, no WPA, no SSL, TLS, VPN, etc.
So yes, while you could run your own wireless access point, it doesn’t solve the main requirement for most people which is privacy.
You aren’t understanding my point.
My point is that you can continue to import and sell the exact same physical device, just with a little change in marketing, and possibly software.
My point is this: Once you have acquired the device, there is fuck all the FCC can do about you converting your “ham radio” back into a consumer-grade router.
This is technically not true, the FCC can and does enforce spectrum usage rules. Whether they will expend resources chasing down your router or your unlicensed GMRS is another matter.
Unintentionally shutting down ai data centers. Lol, we know this will only be selectively enforced!
Well it does say consumer-grade. Not sure what the reasoning there is, as backdoors in enterprise equipment would be much worse for national security
Conditional approvals - it’s a bribe scheme. Companies can ask for exceptions. Sure they wouldn’t Grease any palms…












