• arrow74@lemmy.zip
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    10 days ago

    He never said “he changed” in relation to the tattoo. He said he was unaware, and honestly it’s believable. Is it really that hard to imagine some drunk military dudes in the early 2000s go to a tattoo shop in Croatia and pick a skull tattoo because they think it looks badass. If anyone in that scenario was a Nazi it was the tattoo artist for having that design ready to go.

    I swear people forget there was a time when we didn’t have the world’s information at our fingertips to lookup and know all these symbols.

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      9 days ago

      That’s exactly how I see it. Everybody assumes they know he’s hiding his true Nazi beliefs, but the more realistic scenario is that he was on shore leave with the guys, totally hammered, they take over a tattoo shop, and they all get tats. Perhaps they all got the same one in solidarity, and he didn’t even pick it out.

      Yeah, it’s all speculation, but so are the claims that he’s a secret Nazi. My speculation at least sounds realistic.

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          8 days ago

          You were probably for smearing Al Franken, too.

          I want to win elections, crush MAGA, and purge them from our government and society, and I’m willing to squeeze some balls to do it. You’d rather become enslaved to MAGA before being slightly impolite.

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            8 days ago

            Al Franken should not have resigned and frankly trying to compare this turd of a man to him is fucking insulting and shows your profound lack of judgement.

            I get you want to win elections at any cost and if I had to hold my nose to vote for him as the lesser of evils I would. That is where my endorsement would end however.

            This is another pick by the political elite so the belief he is going to do anything other than what he is told is an unfortunate reality. That coupled with his history of indiscriminate murder and later mercenary work is about the last thing I want in a politician.

            He will undoubtedly vote to keep the industrial military complex going like all good senators do. If you think this is going to actually engage progressives I would say you are full of shit. If you think this may sway some Magats to vote Maga Blue then you are probably correct.

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      10 days ago

      And what is to stop actual Nazis from claiming they ‘were unaware’? I am very willing to vote Democrat, but it just seems dodgy to me. People like Angus King, Joe Manchin, John Fetterman, Mark Kelly, Gary Peters, Barack Obama in his first term, and the likes (this is ignoring candidates of other parties I would vote for if they ran, which is many)… but this just rubs me the wrong way. That being said, I do not have the option to vote for him anyways, so it does not matter for me. Last time… I literally voted 40/10/40/10 on my local and federal ballot combined (Democrat, Green, GOP, and Libertarian). It is because I look into what the specific candidate that is running for office has done, has said, their plans, and if they have proven they have changed. When choosing your leaders, looking out for deception matters quite a lot. Reasonably, why should I vote for someone who has ANY Nazi tattoo on him, REGARDLESS of his excuses? It is why I went from liking Elon Musk pre-2025 to not fully trusting him post-2025 outside of technology when he did the Nazi salute ranting about how his ‘heart goes out to you’ and ‘civilisation’, even though I think his inventions are great. I cannot reasonably support people who do stuff like that. So again, I ask you, what is proving he is being honest when he claims he ‘was unaware’ it was a Nazi tattoo? Why should I bet on his honesty about not being a neo-Nazi when I could potentially support a different Democrat candidate with less baggage?

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        8 days ago

        It’s simple really. Tattoos aren’t what make people nazis. What they believe does. If someone glorified authoritarianism, toted violence as the only viable solution to any problem, scapegoated minorities and was wildly racist then the idea they didn’t know would be indefensible. As it is, despite dozens of interns scraping over his public social media posts they weren’t able to find anything like that. The more the media and billionaire funded bot campaigns screech that he’s a nazi while he’s simultaneously praising diversity, urging solidarity and decrying genocide it makes an absolute joke of the label when people currently in office are merrily building concentration camps.