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pretty telling that first reation of some here can be summed with: what is really white?
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This is your daily reminder that Irish and Italians weren’t considered white at the beginning of the 20th century in America.
Hell, some people in Europe don’t consider albanians to be white.
Also I’d be very concerned as to where all the racial minorities went. Like genuinely concerned.
One of my favorite facts was that West Side Story was initially about the rivalry between polish and Italian immigrants in New York and Leonard Bernstein had to rework it because he received feedback that it would be too niche and people who didn’t live in New York in a very specific window of time wouldn’t get it.
People who don’t live in Europe don’t even realise how divided white Europeans are. The Irish and Eastern Europeans are even victims of colonisation.
And forget North America and Europe, just look at Africa and tell me they did not have inter-ethnic conflicts.
The post is very silly and North Americancentric.
Literally Brexit was mostly about Brits not liking other Europeans being free to move to Britain, especially Poles.
I lived in London and unless they actually start talking and you hear their accent (or, even “worse” for the average Brit, their language) you can’t actually tell a Pole from a Brit.
So. yeah, a fucking mid-sized country in the modern era has left a massive European trade union which gave them massive benefits (it has been estimated that Britain’s GDP is growing 2% less every year because of leaving) because of their xenophobia against other Europeans, especially Eastern and Southern Europeans.
Plot twist: Chinese and Indians are not racial minorities.
There’s too many minorities!
🎶At my water park 🎶
Raptured.
With all these immigrants, Heaven for sure has become a bad place, which is why I refused to go there when offered!! When God comes to his sense and remigrate them, I’ll reconsider!!
What, you doubt me? Such a lack of faith! You must be a bad Christian! You’ll probably go to Hell!
And shit Albanians are the whitest anyone could be, being albino and shit
Whitest people I’ve seen are from northern China. Europigs have nothing on the…
History already showed what happens. 90% chance people start going for the Irish.
Don’t forget Italians.
Also Catholics in general.
People are incredibly good at creating out-groups and attacking them.
And the Irish will start going at Dubliners, and Dubliners will start going at North Dubliners?
This goes for every human population, by the way.
What, you think only Europe had racism and discrimination through history?
What, you think only Europe had racism and discrimination through history?
“I don’t like this conversation so me and my strawman are going to have a different one now.”
What are you talking about? That oh god no, someone dares to point that garbage racist meme is racist and garbage?
Never trust lighteyes!
Blue eyes but they remain a pretty deep blue. I always wonder how the Alethi would categorize me lol
I assume people with medium lightness would be categorized contextually by them, sort of like how people with skin tones that don’t read clearly black or white are irl. If someone with ambiguous eyes is wearing a hand sleeve and acting noble you’ll assume she’s a light eyes, but if she’s wearing a glove and interacting with laborers you’ll assume she’s a dark eyes.
Scrolled too far to find this
Or anyone with a name too palindromic
And remember to reject any shards offered to you lest you become one of them
The semantical arguments about who counts as “white” already exist and often in very hate filled ways. Alt right “preserve the white race” people already try to bring back the pre world war 2 “Italians don’t count as white” nonsense. And of course tons of Italian Americans are certainly not known for progressive stances
So basically targets would shift?
Don’t forget that WASPs often excluded entire professions to what they considered ‘lesser’ whites and catholics and Jews.
Ben Shapiro once said that Jews might not be good at the NBA like blacks when he doesn’t realize (or does but is lying) that Jews dominated basketball in the 1920s and 1930s. Ironically then as now racism played a role in stereotyping them. Since Jews were seen as crafty and intelligently sneaky this was seen as manifesting in the sport, which often does need deception to get ahead.
They could go further back and not count the Irish either
The concept of whiteness comes from the Spanish inquisition after the fall of Grenada. Being fair skinned was a way of proving without a doubt that you weren’t a jew or a muslim.
My guess is we’d start dividing up amongst religious heritage again. Mormons vs. Evangelicals Vs. Protestants Vs. Catholics Vs. The Real Christians
Also the Spanish discriminated against Muslims who converted to Christian and doubted their faith as true. This was a generational thing since even their grandchildren were seen as suspect even if they and their parents were born and raised Catholic.
Sure but I don’t think the alt right morons on twitter recognize that. They just see olive skin and a name that ends in a vowel and go ew gross different
Huh name that ends in a vowel? Having a hard time thinking of guys names but girls there are a fair amount.
Last name. Sometimes first name like Giuseppe or Luigi but more like Gotti, gambino, etc
Well the Irish would not be white again.
Having just come from the “taking things too literally” thread, contexts like these make it fun to deliberately take it too literally.
What would I do if I woke up and there were only white people left? I’d probably think “what the fuck is going on” as I see only white people floating around in empty space, and then I’d die from a mix of lack of oxygen, hypothermia, and lack of pressure.
Though maybe I’d first ask a clarifying question, like if that “black people” was just an example or would there still be like asians, and latinos? Do Irish and Italians count as white for this question? Basically set it up to look like I’m engaging with the question in good faith before taking the “clarification” to the extreme and giving the above answer.
And then poke at whatever new edge cases they leave when they try to clarify again, until I get bored and just disengage because it was a fucking dumb question.
You wouldn’t see anything though as there’d be no Sun to illuminate what you were seeing.
If the brown people were included and werent here, who would pick all the food. It’d be a real problem
Dead ass what would happen, gingers would become the new “blacks”
They are already called potato n-I’m not going to finish that.
It will be hair color first. I have red hair so I’m next on the petty hate machine.
The far right already dislike white people from eastern Europe
STORMIN LIGHTEYES
I feel I have to point out here that most white people aren’t racist, and don’t give a shit about skin color.
I know this comment will be down voted yo hell because of course all white people are evil racist bastards, and people of color never do anything wrong, but still…
This post feels ever so slightly racist. Is racism not racism anymore if white people are the target? I was always taught to just be nice to everybody and that becoming your enemy doesn’t defeat your enemy.
The post is hilariously racist.
“You wake up and there’s only white people left. No black people”
Like bitch. What, Asians don’t exist anymore? Native Americans? Pacific Islanders?
Or she’d have to recognize that black Americans are just as racist against those groups too.
And not only white people are racist is a big one.
People freak out when they learn that people with any skin color can be racist. Discriminating in skin color is just so stupid, unless its for the medical sector.
I feel I have to point out here that most white people aren’t racist, and don’t give a shit about skin color.
I know this comment will be down voted yo hell because of course all white people are evil racist bastards, and people of color never do anything wrong, but still…
This post feels ever so slightly racist. Is racism not racism anymore if white people are the target? I was always taught to just be nice to everybody and that becoming your enemy doesn’t defeat your enemy.
If you’re a white American whose first response to a post like this is the need to get defensive, I have bad news for you about the cute little “not racist” outfit you’re trying to wear.
Being racist is kind of like being an asshole in that you don’t get to decide whether you are or aren’t by declaring it- you’ll be informed.
1: you know that there are many countries in the world where white people are living, right? There are dozens of us, even!
2: if someone pointing out that racism works in all directions irks you, I got bad news for you too with your cute "yep I declare you’re a racist!"post
Being an asshole is kind of being like a racist in that you don’t get to decide whether yu are or aren’t by declaring it- you’ll be informed
It would be double racist if his response was “go enjoy a movie at the theater.”
Surelly anti-gingerism would become the norm.
(Though maybe that’s just an UK thing)
US too. “I’ll beat you like a red headed step-child.” They were unloved because they were products of rape of Irish immigrants that had to serve as servants/slaves for five to ten years to pay for their trip to America.
you should probably watch south park
Gingervitis is a real issue!
To be fair people without brown eyes are heretics and heathens
Pretty rich, coming from a mudeye
Blue eyes came from a mutation! Death to the muties!!!
Define white though. Does it include traditionally “olive skinned” nationalities?
