Insane list. Look at the IMDB Top 250 filtered by “after 2000” and you’ll notice the obvious omissions:
- Avatar: The Last Airbender at number 6
- Attack on Titan at number 16
- Firefly at number 39
- Taskmaster at number 43
These are just a couple examples in different categories. Anime fans immediately noticed that no anime made the list at all, despite 10 being in the IMDB top 100. Western animation fans might have seen that Bojack Horseman made the list, but Avatar didn’t (or if the editor filtered for “adult animation”, Rick and Morty (#22) didn’t). There’s really no excuse for these, there is no consistent rule that would exclude any of these shows. NYT readers must live in the dark timeline where fun is outlawed and Taskmaster was cancelled after one series.
I don’t get why would they skip Avatar on this list.
Animation isn’t respected in the snobby “film” crowd. These are the same sorts of people that refuse to take Citizen Kane out of the number 1 movie slot. If movies peaked in 1941, what’s the point?
I started to think their list was implicitly live action-only, but then Bojack Horseman? This list is fully ad-hoc one person’s perspective, no objectivity or consensus attempted.
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This is a pretty good list, that I largely agree with. IF it were unordered. Ordered the way it is, it is an abomination.
The best TV show IN ENGLISH… plenty of better TV show in other languages… just saying.
Any recommendations?
Dark
One show on the list is actually not in English: The Bureau (original title: Le bureau des légendes)
Excellent spy and geo political drama/thriller following agents of the French DGSE.
This is certainly a top-quality shitpost. I’ll give you my upvote for that.
I’ll quote myself from the other post about this:
Why the fuck would I care what the NYT thinks about TV shows?
It’s really weird that basically nothing made out of the anglosphere is there. Squid game got squeezed in, but not a single anime for example is really weird. There is stuff like AoT and Death Note and neither is on there.
It’s completely US-centered with a couple of British shows sprinkled on top. Even if your focus was just the anglosphere, UK TV punches way above its weight.
It’s funny how many British shows run for 8 episodes and an ending, then gets remade in America with 8 seasons
I’m upset because (my favorite show) is not in the top (insert arbitrary number)
A lot these comments are more like
I’m upset because (my favorite 20th century show) is not in the top (insert arbitrary number)
I think these are as good as any on this list as well. My faves.
Black Sails
Arcane
Letterkenny
Norsemen
Corner Gas
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms
Corner Gas mentioned?! Let’s go!!!
Ferdaaaa
Arcane doesn’t belong but you are right on black sails
So, so many poorly placed on the list. Band of Brothers is my personal number 1, but I’d accept it anywhere in the top 5; begrudgingly accept it in the top 10. But 28? GTFO.
I got a chuckle out of BoB being right before Key & Peele. Like I love both shows, but sorry K&P, to keep it real, your show is not “almost as good as” Band of Brothers
No Pushing Daisies?
Andor not in the top ten is clown dookie
I wonder when the list was created
Always Sunny is SEVENTY-EIGHTH?! gtfoutta here.
I’m so far behind on that show, like probably 10+ seasons behind. I got tired of it after a certain point. I feel like I’m not alone.
Oh ya sunny is the utmost sit com. The characters don’t change and stay the same, they don’t learn and have nothing to say. I think that’s why they have so much staying power.
They have permanently kicked the ass of the sitcom genre. Even their new season is funny as hell. They’ve been making the show for like 18 years or something and can still come up with good episodes. I kinda hope they just retire it if DeVito is ready to quit though.
I think that’s why I’ve no interest in watching it.
Ya, imagine sienfeld except more silly.
Agreed they definitely are innovators and envelope pushers, they deserve higher than garbage like 30 rock
Fake top 100 for sure. Op made it because he watched this series and wants to brag about it.
Where at IT Crowd, Seinfeld and Person of Interest? But yea, let add only American series!
/J21st century
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Where is Garth Mahrengi’s Darkplace?
Number one, in a different dimension.
Who made this list lol. Shit shows are high ranked, good shows low ranked. Makes no sense.
I’d assume that it’s based on some form of measure. How many times streamed, average episode rating, how many streaming/hosting licenses were purchased, etc etc.
I can absolutely see how a show without much narrative complexity but is delightful ‘popcorn’ to second-screen watch after a long day could perform well. It’s all in which metrics were used and how they were weighted.
I also think they only checked certain streaming services, but not all. Because there are some very good shows missing. And also many older shows are missing. At least Six Feet Under made the list, as an older show. But it shouldn’t be so low on the list. Especially when you see the other shows above it. It makes no sense.
Also I didn’t see Utopia (UK), The Expanse, Silo and Shrinking, which are really good. The Expanse is seen as the best scifi ever made. How can it be missing from the list.
Then they added Black Mirror, low on the list, without specifying seasons or UK and US as with other shows. The first UK seasons should have been at least in the top 10.
The Expanse. Where’s the fucking Expanse?
