• massacre@lemmy.world
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      Google wants kids reliant on Big Tech to do the thinking for them. It’s an insidious and much more damaging goal.

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    Schools should be self-hosting searxng or something similar. Public education’s reliance on corporations is antiquated and barbaric.

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    The day a corporation can enforce a scholastic learning agenda, or curriculum, is the day we should burn that corporation to the ground. Families, kids, teachers and money for supplies, no propaganda in the schoolhouse, except to teach the kids to recognize it and avoid it.

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      no propaganda in the schoolhouse

      Good luck with that one. Even if you could get schools to stop requiring the Pledge of Allegiance every day, every history textbook and literary novel has a perspective in it and was published by a megacorp.

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        I don’t know a single school where the pledge is required?

        Edit: and every literary novel? Sure, EVERYTHING has a perspective. Novels are written by people, of course it has perspective. Trying to argue that makes it propaganda is a little much

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          I don’t know a single school where the pledge is required?

          It hasn’t been explicitly required in decades, but it’s still implicitly required: everyone else is doing it, and if you don’t, your teachers may treat you differently.

          and every literary novel?

          Okay, maybe not, like, Hatchet, but there’s plenty that make a more direct and incendiary point. It’s why schools consistently try to ban books like To Kill a Mockingbird or the Handmaid’s Tale. School boards think those books are propaganda in defiance of their cultural values.

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            It is explicitly required that schools give a time for reverance and respect to the flag each day. The pledge fulfills this requirement but is not the only way.

            So it basically is specifically required.

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            Ok, so maybe generalizations like your original ones aren’t great then?

            If people are trying to ban books, that sucks, but it does highlight that the problem you’re trying to highlight isn’t as big as you’re suggesting.

            It could be bad, but it isn’t, because people push back.

            Now Internet propaganda? Tv propaganda? Media propaganda? Oh hell yeah, that shit is bad. I wish I didn’t have to try to find three different sources before I could trust a news article.

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              It could be bad, but it isn’t, because people push back.

              In some districts. Some of the time. Plenty of other districts uphold their book bans. But that’s only talking about novels in English classes anyway. The more insidious one is the first part of what I mentioned: history textbooks.

              School boards basically buy the version of a textbook that supports their values. They’re not trying to buy the most accurate or unbiased; they are buying propaganda that colors history in whatever way they favor. And that is true in every school district in the country. Very few teachers have the knowledge, resources, and support to counter what is in the textbooks their district provides, so kids just get taught a narrow scope that is often extremely suspect or a politician’s preferred description of events.

              When McGraw-Hill makes a textbook, they’re tailoring the content within because ultimately they’re a company trying to make money. Schools will always be rife with propaganda as long as that is the model. If textbooks were provided by not-for-profit educational institutes and didn’t need local Karens to approve of every paragraph, maybe things would be different. But right now, propaganda in schools is bad.

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                I don’t disagree with that at all.

                Literature though, not sure how you could paint the entire category as propaganda.

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        Even the schools I’ve seen that still say the Pledge don’t require it. I’m not in the US anymore, but the last school my kids were in before we left didn’t even do the former.

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    I mean they force us to use it by putting it on top of the actual search results and they don’t realize we just dont fucking want it – im sorry they spent trillions already on it but we’re not paying them for it – that’s on them to eat the money they set in fire.

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      What are the better options, I use DDG for reference. Curious if there is a go too. Haven’t touched Google in years for a search. Do occasionally use their reverse image search no that I think about it.

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        DDG is going down in quality. Still acceptable. Startpage yields more assertive results, but it’s a bit slower.

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      Should have started sooner, a lot of people seem to still think it is the only choice.

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      My phone reset the default search to Google and it was ridiculous. First page was all AI garbage sites and aggregators. I switched back to Bing, slightly less bad, and found my results on the first page. Gotta get DDG on the default list.