Context

The main arguments for people to defederate are

  • “Embrace, extend, and extinguish” strategy: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
  • A potential federation with Threads (should Thread decide to implement it) would overwhelm Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed with millions of users (compared to the 40k monthly current active users), transforming those platforms into a threaded version of Facebook
  • Defederating preventively costs nothing

LW stance: https://lemmy.world/post/1274909?scrollToComments=true

  • Cris@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Oh neat, guess that’s another reason I’d like to pick out another instance

  • Five@slrpnk.netEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Threads.net federation status on major Lemmy instances based on blocklist info:

    Also, in memoriam:

  • kryptonidas@lemmings.worldEnglish
    1·
    11 months ago

    Dang it I was on lemmy.wtf and that one has been down for days now. Now you’re telling me this one will get flooded with “tweets”? Do I have to pack up my shit again? We’ll see how bad it will get.

    Edit: it’s up again. It is too unreliable though.

    • Psychodelic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      I’ve been here a year and I still don’t get how lemmy works. lol

      Apparently I’m on the world one. No idea what impact that has, I just remember it being the easiest to join

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        It’s like email sort of. I’m on programming.dev. When I post this comment it will be sent to programming.dev. Asynchronously (but still fairly soon) lemmy.world will scrape it from programming.dev (this is called “federation”). When you log into lemmy.world your inbox will show you this message notification.

        You never directly interact with any server other than your home instance.

      • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Lemmy is niche and therefore is heavily populated by techies but more specifically lemmy is open source so these techies are specifically the type who like open source stuff. Threads and the corporation responsible for it have a financial incentive to oppose open source projects like this. So the community most ideologically tied to lemmy want nothing to do with it. They want to preserve their space that they have made as free of the influences of capital as possible. The very existence of threads is a threat.

      • DrDystopia@lemy.lolEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        There’s lots of things I’ve never witnessed but is against as a matter of principle.

  • hOrni@lemmy.worldEnglish
    0·
    11 months ago

    A great reminder, that I will never understand how this site works. Isn’t lemmy.world like the main page? That’s what shows up on my Sync app.

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      No, .world is not anything like a ‘main page’. It’s just the largest “instance”.

      Lemmy isn’t even really a site, it’s more like what email is - a data exchange protocol.

      You see mostly .world content because you share that domain, and they’ve “blocked” a lot of other domains.

      You can make an account at any-other instance and see a lot of other content. Lemmy.world has “blocked” (defederated) with a lot of instances, so you’re not seeing everything.

      Sync is just an app that lets you view your account content (similar to how gmail the app lets you view your email content).

  • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    01·
    11 months ago

    The threads hate is so fucking stupid. Companies getting involved with Lemmy would be awesome, mostly because it’s a replacement for discord. The whole EEE thing is FUD, open source largely solved that problem. The people with control aren’t just going to give Meta they keys anyway. Some corporate involvement could help solve some real issues with making hosting easier, reducing storage needs, and increasing federation throughput.

    Corporate instances would be awesome to add to my feed for the things I want to see and it would be a way to attract people to get the more niche communities. The tools already exist for the people who don’t want to see that content. If for example steam community discussions became Lemmy communities that would be a huge win for the platform.

    Also threads isn’t even the same federation model as Lemmy anyway and it’s unlikely to ever actually federate to here anyway.

    • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      Threads hate isn’t stupid. Consider for a moment the literally dozens of people online without FB or Insta accounts. That is a choice. It’s nice to have somewhere that doesn’t have those users, with that groomed content, pumped for profit. Meta exists to make money - the Zuckdroid wants a finger in the fediverse pie to maximise profit for the share holders; not because he’s gone all in and techno-philanthropy. Having said that, the dilution of quality and nuance his user base “could” bring is the real worry though.

    • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Part of the appeal of lemmy is the distance it keeps from corporate interests. Inviting them would no doubt encourage sponsored content and advertising.

      Yes it can happen anyway, but I refuse to roll out the red carpet for corporate schlock.