Jesus was 100% Jewish circa year zero. Observed Torah, went to and taught at synagogues, celebrated Hannukkah, ate a kosher diet, etc. But Christians don’t follow Jesus’s own religious practices.

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    Because Jesus showed them a better way? I thought that was the point of it.

    All of Jesus’s followers who lived when he did were Jewish as well. They were all guilty of what Jesus was crucified for, going against the established religion of the land (I wouldn’t call it apostasy though; that’s renouncing God and none of them were doing that). Christianity is/was based on the teachings of Christ; it builds upon Judaism.

    That’s my understanding anyway. I am not religious. But, I don’t think “Christians are not Jews like Jesus was” is a bad thing.

    What’s wild to me is that today’s Jews believe Jesus was this decent guy but not the son of God. Then you have Muslims who believe that maybe he was the son of God, maybe he was just a prophet, but they still follow his teachings, they just lean more into the teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him) (that’s how they say it, or they add “PBUH” which means the same). But guess who the Christians side with politically? I don’t get it. But I don’t think that (the political thing) has to do with who’s more closely aligned with Jesus, I think it’s who pays better.

    But again, I’m not religious, so I don’t support or reject any of them. And of course my understanding of these religions is far less than actual practitioners of said religions.

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      You can’t be Muslim and think anything or anyone else is Divine in any way like Him, be it a son or an accompanying “god”. The Oneness of God is a core, undeniable part of Islam (any branch, any sect, etc., because it’s based on a singular book that’s accessible to all, the Qur’an, and that’s like THE main tenet of it). But yes, prophet Isa, big J, is of course a big part of the history of the religion! I don’t mean to be mean to Christians but listen, even in the Bible Jesus is shown praying (why would “God” pray?!), asking for intercession, and even denying being called ‘good’ because “only the Father is good” (because all of these hard categories belong only to God, He’s the superlative of all the good traits, our unreachable goal, since there’s “good and bad” in all of us, a bit of vice not just virtue). Jesus was a man who believed in God and asked Him for help and his prayer mentions it strongly!

      But yeah, Jesus is/should be seen as big for every Muslim regardless of whether you know his message or not simply because, even if it didn’t take complete root and the message was shared to the world already changed and corrupted by the Romans, it did perhaps prepare the world, through Western colonization, for virtue and monotheism (if you believe you’ll meet the Creator and be judged for your decisions in life you kind of have a bigger motivation to act right! lol), and that’s a crazy way to get there but hey, the Lord works in mysterious ways. And then people can adopt Islam, which basically takes any man, saints, St. Peter and the keys, etc, all of that nonsense out of the equation entirely and tells you: "your life is and the universe are gifts from your Creator that you will never be able to repay (of course, who here can make a universe?!), enjoy them but walk the straight path, and you will meet Him again on the Day of Judgment and if you were even slightly decent (at the very least very repentant while you’re alive still), you get an even better second, eternal life (why not? He already made a universe once at least!).

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      theoretically, Muslims and Jews should be closer. both believe in one god, rather than a trinity. both reject icons. both follow the dietary laws. both Jews and Arabs descend from Abraham.

      maybe the closer you are the more you have to fight about 🤷‍♀️

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        I’ve read that Mohammed even wanted to merge his movement with Judaism, but Jewish leaders rejected him, and apparently that set some bad blood.

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      Muslims don’t believe Jesus is the son of god but do believe he is the prophecied messiah, performed miracles and ascended into heaven