The guy from American history x was a reformed neo nazi, and he was ashamed of his tats, but I don’t think he got rid of em. I haven’t watched it in a while though.
Pretending real people don’t change or grow is itself an ideological lie. During the Civil War there were white Confederates whose beliefs changed after seeing that the story they had been told about how slavery was beneficial for and enjoyed by enslaved black people was a lie. And they didn’t just change their beliefs, but defected to the Union. There were Confederates who joined in on Sherman’s march when the opportunity to defect presented itself. Considering that Naziism is literally founded on the same principles as America’s chattel slavery system, the idea that anyone ‘tainted’ by such ideology is incapable of changing is ahistorical.
Whether or not they were the majority (they weren’t) is irrelevant when the claim being made is that people with monstrous ideological beliefs are incapable of changing. Racism isn’t a magic spell that creates a zombie you can treat as an NPC, it’s a belief system that can be dismantled like any other.
I bet plenty of Nazis becomes Nazis because they lack love and a community, not because they just hate others.
Well, plenty become Nazis for that reason as well
if the community you choose to become part of involves genocide - it’s still a choice one makes to become part of it. are you trying to say someone who actively helps a genocide can be reformed in such a manner that the stain of their choices can be forgotten by those who were victims?
No
I’m saying that I believe there’s Nazis that didn’t become Nazis because they just wanted the Jews gone but because they felt like they had nowhere to go. At least if you listen to some ex-nazis that found their way out from the funnel of hatred and loneliness.
This obviously doesn’t forgive any crimes committed or the hatred spewed, but Nazis are still humans and thus not a homogen mass driven to hate by the same reasons
edit: this is of course true for all hate driven groups. If you can’t find companions who loves, there’s always company in hate
being a nazi is an immutable decision and is not taken lightly. THIS IS WHY IT IS SO SERIOUS.
The guy from American history x was a reformed neo nazi, and he was ashamed of his tats, but I don’t think he got rid of em. I haven’t watched it in a while though.
neat. movies are movies.
Pretending real people don’t change or grow is itself an ideological lie. During the Civil War there were white Confederates whose beliefs changed after seeing that the story they had been told about how slavery was beneficial for and enjoyed by enslaved black people was a lie. And they didn’t just change their beliefs, but defected to the Union. There were Confederates who joined in on Sherman’s march when the opportunity to defect presented itself. Considering that Naziism is literally founded on the same principles as America’s chattel slavery system, the idea that anyone ‘tainted’ by such ideology is incapable of changing is ahistorical.
Whether or not they were the majority (they weren’t) is irrelevant when the claim being made is that people with monstrous ideological beliefs are incapable of changing. Racism isn’t a magic spell that creates a zombie you can treat as an NPC, it’s a belief system that can be dismantled like any other.
I bet plenty of Nazis becomes Nazis because they lack love and a community, not because they just hate others. Well, plenty become Nazis for that reason as well
if the community you choose to become part of involves genocide - it’s still a choice one makes to become part of it. are you trying to say someone who actively helps a genocide can be reformed in such a manner that the stain of their choices can be forgotten by those who were victims?
No
I’m saying that I believe there’s Nazis that didn’t become Nazis because they just wanted the Jews gone but because they felt like they had nowhere to go. At least if you listen to some ex-nazis that found their way out from the funnel of hatred and loneliness.
This obviously doesn’t forgive any crimes committed or the hatred spewed, but Nazis are still humans and thus not a homogen mass driven to hate by the same reasons
edit: this is of course true for all hate driven groups. If you can’t find companions who loves, there’s always company in hate