• grue@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    For the record, this is about preventing accidents, not “terrorism.” (If nothing else, you can tell by the fact that the other sides of the pedestrian platform aren’t protected.)

    I’m pretty far out on the radical fringe, but this title is too sensationalized even for me. Tone it down next time, please.

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      I’m pretty far out on the radical fringe, but this title is too sensationalized even for me.

      Usually this is just an indicator that you aren’t actually on the radical fringe. Not trying to contradict your point or anything, but this is a sort of overton window-shifting rhetorical tactic that gets on my nerves because it actually works against a movement. Even if you didn’t realize you were doing it.

      Regarding the opinion on terror rhetoric though, I do think it’s a fine strategy to call what cars do to our street like terrorism. It’s usually not definitional political terrorism (Usually), but the situation we have today required political choices which have resulted in actual terror on our streets. It’s a bold choice of words, and sometimes you have to be bold to hammer home a point.

      And on that count… It should be “crash”, not “accident”. “Accident” partially aliviates blame and suggests an inevitability.

      Alright, back into my pedantist cage.

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        I think the problem here is that terror and terrorism are quite different things. Saying car terrorism implies the intention is to cause mass terror. You can’t really accidentally or unknowingly commit a terrorism. Call cars death machines or a scourge, but calling them terrorists seems inaccurate, and maybe more importantly, not useful. It seems to shift the blame from the system that leads to car dominance towards individual drivers as terrorists.

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      It feels like 5 years ago, but it was only back in January that a man used a truck to kill 14 people in a ramming attack on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, LA. The city had been warned, and knew of the need to have bollards installed, but cheaped out on temporary bollards, which were apparently malfunctioning at the time of the attack. There had been a vehicle-ramming attack at the Christmas market in Magdeburg in December, and an attack in Munich following in February.

      I’d say that the title is right on. Car terrorism is a thing.

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        12 days ago

        I’m certainly not denying that actual car terrorism is a thing now, in the 2020s. But that’s very different than claiming it was being described in a comic from almost a hundred years ago, or claiming that the single-direction barricade depicted was intended to be a countermeasure for it (let alone an effective one).

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      13 days ago

      The correct way to prevent car based terror of pedestrians was invented in ireland a century ago. I think there’s a drink named after it.

      That or random anti vehicle mines.

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    13 days ago

    We should stop car terrorism the same way we stop other terrorism. With a ‘targeted’ campaign of airstrikes that hit not just the car terrorists but car civilians and car women and children too.

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    Been saying it for years, and starting to feel like I’m going insane. How in the fuck have so many municipalities around the world, especially those concerned with vehicle-based terrorist attacks on pedestrians, not settled on bollards? If it works for embassies, military bases, and other sensitive sites, why not exclusively vehicle-free areas?

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      not settled on bollards?

      I remember, maybe last year, there was city “debate” over installing bollards at intersections to protect cyclists and pedestrians. From what I recall, NIMBYs pushed HARD against the idea, saying it was “confusing” and “dangerous” for motorists…

      Anything to save lives or improve safety tends to be an automatic “NO!” in most places because of NIMBYs.

      That’s why certain safety projects should just move forward without public input.

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    13 days ago

    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a heavy object, is a good guy with a heavy object.

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    13 days ago

    Even Seattle has this problem to this day.

    https://publicola.com/2025/06/18/saka-people-who-support-keeping-curby-are-anti-immigrant-radical-defund-the-police-carpetbaggers/

    In a 2,100-word, emoji-filled email blast (that’s about three times the length of this post!) announcing a compromise that will keep a traffic safety divider in place while allowing cars to park in the bus lane on Delridge Way SW, City Councilmember Rob Saka blamed a “radical proxy ‘war on cars’” for demonizing his efforts to remove the divider. The barrier, a standard-issue hardened centerline identical to hundreds installed around the city, was installed as part of Metro’s RapidRide H project.

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    Saka has consistently portrayed the lack of left-turn car access into the small preschool as an issue of racial and social justice, and his newsletter doubles down on that canard, accusing people who oppose eliminating the divider of “targeting the very immigrant families they claim to support” by denying cars from turning left into the parking lot.