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    Because the “mistress” part is a distraction from circular financing, and smuggling GPUs to countries that shouldn’t have them. Including Russia, into Russian drones, used to attack civilian homes, which makes Jensen Huang a war criminal.

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    It wasn’t the ‘mistress’ part that bothered anyone. It was the ‘Spy’ and smuggling part that was what brought him down.

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    The scandal isn’t the cheating, it’s selling products to Chinese countries despite export restrictions, the cheating was just a vehicle for that. As heinous as it is, Trump’s paedophilia doesn’t have an impact on the global economy.

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      Except when he’s pressured by the Epstein class into starting a war with Iran and raising the cost of energy.

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    All the other billionaires are shocked and sickened by his inexplicable attraction to age appropriate women

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    It’s not about having a mistress. Huang is successfully controlling the narrative which is the actual shocker. Do people even realize Elon fucking Musk… exists?! You know, as in being a CEO of SpaceX and Tesla? The guy has more children with affairs than he attends board meetings and nobody ever cared.

    It was never about that at all for Huang but about illegally smuggling hardware into China, cozying up to Trump and the Democrats subsequently sweeping the midterms. He fears for a harsh sentence under a different president so he wants this to be over quickly and get a pardon. It’s blatantly obvious he controls the narrative to different affairs as soon as people start asking the actual questions and it’s painful to see people falling for it.

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      Is he though? Public opinion doesn’t really matter and he’s already been summoned to testify before Congress about it.

      Pretty sure the people that actually matter here are all about the illegal Chinese smuggling bit and not the sex.

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        Summoned to testify. How often do any of these investigations result in people going to jail? He’s rich af, so odds are nothing will happen to him.

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          Well, Congress has no ability to charge anyone with a crime. That’s the DOJ. And Congress has referred charges to the DOJ several times.

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          Yeah, that’s what I said?

          He’s actually in trouble because of the criminal stuff. Not because some idiots online think it’s because of the affairs.

          That was my point. Some dipshit twitter users aren’t actually affecting anything. He’s not “controlling the narrative” at all when he’s still facing a huge criminal shitstorm.

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    It’s quite simple really: Trump has made billionaires a ton of money and his paedophilia has no ill effect on it. Huang’s affairs have cost billionaires a ton of money.

    It’s never been about morals, just money

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    So obviously a lot of fools that can’t connect the obvious dots are going to say ALLEGED pedophile. Ok, fine. However, he is an adjudicated rapist. So you can say that in the U.S. being an actual rapist doesn’t bring down a president and have it be 100% undeniably true.

    The bar has been lowered. Severely. And the only way to raise that bar again is to bring justice to the rapist desecrating the office of the presidency.

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    More so the smuggling of chips then the mistress. People are saying it’s the mistress to try and distract the public from the smuggling that makes up 20% of nvidia sales

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      Seeing as the Trump admin very likely knew about and tolerated the smuggling, it also seems to be a pretext as much as the Mistress or Spy angle.

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      Still, cheating on your spouse is more immoral than smuggling chips. And child rape is among the worse things a human can do to another.

      But only one of those matters in this country and it wasn’t even a crime until a couple of years ago.

      And that’s a fucking problem.

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        Ousting the CEO was a bottom dollar decision, not a morality decision. A corporation breaking US export control laws for ITAR technology has a much greater impact on investor bottom lines than any type of CEO sex scandal.

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      I’m not trying to say “won’t someone think of the children” here. I just think that’s worse than a honeypot.

      And it certainly doesn’t help that powerful people are waiting for this bubble to pop.

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    I mean, we really ought to just never have a president again. Too much power concentrated in one place.

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      The problem is that we effectively haven’t had a congress for several decades now. They’re supposed to be the ones to check presidential power.

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      I think we’d be a lot better off if we had staggered nationwide elections for individual cabinet posts and let them run the country.

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      The US should have a leader who is technically the head of the country but whose powers are basically ceremonial. He should swear in the leader of the house, appoint certain high-ranking officials (on the consent of the house leader) and sign laws into effect. He could be the one sent to other countries as a representative of the USA, and he’d be welcomed with red carpets, etc. But, he couldn’t actually enter any negotiations or anything. He could even wear a military uniform to look extra cool.

      In short, the US should have a King.

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        There are plenty of parliamentary republics (Germany, Italy, Austria, India, Ireland, Israel) where the president has mostly ceremonial and representative duties

        No need to revert back to monarchy.

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          It’s safer though. These days “President” has a terrible connotation in the US. Freshen things up with a ceremonial king.

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      We the people were supposed to be the bord of directors then they made corporations people and the people consumers.

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        No, “We the People” were never in charge. They convinced you that we were making choices, while keeping up the appearance of democracy. Then they lied about it when the oligarchs overruled us. They’ve just stopped pretending to care what we think.

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        Sadly, around half (give or take a few percent, depending on recent developments) of this board seems to be just as corrupted as their president.

        Even these midterms still saw millions of people voting for a continuation of this clusterfuck of (financial, moral and legal) corruption. Trump really is just a symptom of a much larger amount of rot.

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          honestly, the crazy part to me was the amount of both parties suck propaganda. like yes, they do, but voting for the one that sucks less is still mathematically the best choice. but i think a lot of republican-aligned “centrists” who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for this mess were terrified that the dems would come out to vote and tried to stop that.

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      I mean, we have laws that would’ve removed and jailed him, but half of the senate decided they prefer fascism.

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        Jailed? I’m not a proponent of the death penalty, but Trump has done like seven different treasonous things. America executes people over smaller shit than J6 all the time.

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        This is an interesting analogy. A good corporate board would be vetting the C-suite similar to how the Senate is supposed to vet cabinet appointments.

        There are definitely corporate boards (and senators) that fail to hold CEOs (and presidents) accountable.

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      Bingo. 6 of 10 had to agree in Jensen’s case. Impeaching Trump takes 285 of 535 people agreeing.

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    It’s not that he has multiple mistresses. It’s that his mistress is the head of a company in Singapore that popped up after graphics cards restrictions to China hit in 2023, and their only customer is Alibaba.

    And that’s what we know so far.

    This is not to say it’s worse than Trump’s allegations, but this isn’t just Huang having an extramarital affair.

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      This is the real explanation. Huang’s behavior has cost other rich people money. Trump’s behavior has not. Simple

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          Companies got to keep that money after they were declared unconstitutional. No company’s bottom line was hurt by any tariff.

          My favorite was Costco telling customers they’re just going to have more sales to save customers more money or something stupid instead of giving any tariff money back.

          Edit: no trump donor company’s bottom line*

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          The tariffs helped at least some rich people (you can tell because that’s the only reason Trump doss anything). The rich don’t have perfect class solidarity indeed, so it comes down to who is most powerful and doing the most winning. And its true Huang also most likely made some people richer in doing this, but they were in a different country and therefore less able to protect him. Big mistake to enrich the people who don’t have legal jurisdiction over you at the expense of people who do

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      I think people think the spy shit mattered. I am pretty sure the 2 (and maybe more who knows) employees he was fucking was the bigger problem for the board. They were fine with him skirting export bans, that’s more money. That she was a “Chinese spy” is great for them they can pretend they weren’t at fault and it was them being exploited by the big bad cummunists, while Trump knew and didn’t give a fuck.

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        The spy shit is what opened the floodgates.

        Of course Trump doesn’t care, but Rubio knew it was a problem. Rubio didn’t write a memo on the employees Huang was sleeping with, the memo was on the spy. And I wouldn’t put it past Rubio in having a hand in making sure this is a bigger story.

        More money is nice, but with Dems coming into more power, NVIDIA is likely going to be answering some tough questions on unreported income. Having sex with two subordinates isn’t what’s going to get Jensen pulled in front of Congress. There’s going to be questions asked if this just end with sales, or if IP was transferred, and where all that unreported money went. There are few rules that you can’t break in this country if you’re rich enough, but ripping off rich shareholders is still a big no no.

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          Treason not of the nation but of other rich people’s wallets is the only rule that you can never break no matter who you are.

          That’s the real gotcha.

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            Not really: corporate boards of directors & stockholders are better coordinated & focused on narrower goals of protecting a business’s earning potential than the entire voting populace and government institutions are in coordinating or even agreeing on the broader mission of government. Half the people seem virulently hostile to the government and want it to fail.

            If half the corporate directors and investors wanted it fail, you could expect similar results and failures. However, people don’t tend to invest in companies with the intent of destroying the worth of their investment.

            This shouldn’t surprise anyone who spares the slightest moment to think seriously about the obvious, structural differences. Profit-driven businesses are simpler to govern than national governments.

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      This thread is so full of information and this is the first comment actually speaking the truth. The media is pushing the affair as the big news but that’s not the story.

      It’s treason. Aided by the Trump administration who has known for well over a year.

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        At this point I’m convinced it’s intentional and coordinated. There is so much focus on the part of this story that matters the least (aka the affairs) that it tends to bury the actually bad part.

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          The government response and media coverage of it is absolutely intentional. Nvidia is like half the economy. No one wants to rock the boat too hard.

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          Looks like Lutnik may take the fall on the US government side, his name is popping up this morning. He’s also a scumbag billionaire so the punishment won’t fit the crime regardless

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      Yeah its not just ‘mistress’, its:

      Mistress that really seems to have engaged in the mass unsanctioned import of export-controlled equipment, and the likely illegal exporter of this export-controlled equipment was the lover of said mistress, who thus also massively illegally exported this equipment.

      The affair is incidental, the main issue is dodging export restrictions that were in place for national security purposes.

      Like, if the US actually enforced its own laws, Huang would be facing prison for potentially 20 to 40 years.

      But they allowed him to flee to Beijing, so… whoopsie daisy, I guess!

      Corrolary to this; this is part of why its delusionally hilarious for Elon to offer Huang a job. In all likelihood, under a Democratic government, Huang would be instantly arrested… Huang likely can never safely return to the USA, rofl.

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      I’ll take corporate espionage and that sort of shit over sweeping victimizing, raping, and murdering children under the rug 10/10 times. “That’s not to say it’s worse than…” - It isn’t even fucking close.

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        I mean if you look at Gamers Nexus’ latest video, nVidia chips have been found in Russian drones… How many children have those outright killed?

        Financial crimes also kill people, by the way, as a side effect.

        Now, of course Trump has Jensen beat, but despite how viscerally horrible raping children is… That’s not Trump’s worst crime.

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        Sure, but are you rich?

        Probably not, because you seem to have some moral compunctions.

        It’s not an issue of what is “better” or “worse” from a moral perspective, it’s an issue of who lost money. Nvidia’s value is dropping because it’s pretty clear this woman had access to things within the company that she should not have, because of her relationship with Huang. Huang has demonstrated that he is an unreliable investment vehicle. Huang must leave or be pushed out.

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      Nah. He wasn’t even asked to step down, the idea wasn’t even floated, until the second (and third) mistress was discovered.

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        The idea was very much floated, it’s why Nvidia lost billions in stock “value”.

        Mistresses #2+ are just the “oh, there’s a lot of this shit coming. You gotta go.”

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        Knowledge of his mistresses were an open secret in NVIDIA. These are all people who have enabled his behaviour every step of the way. He’s been their only CEO, my bet is the delay was more about getting their ducks in a row before he left. Their board (like Tesla) are a bunch of yesmen willing to fall in line because Jensen makes line go up.

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      The funny thing is that from what we know; he’s not likely some “I’m gonna help China destroy the US! Muahahaha!” Kind of guy.

      His public statements about trade restrictions have been very much “dude, I wanna sell more shit and make more money; China is a huge market. Wtf happened to ‘free market’ shit?”

      Like, if she really was a spy he likely just got honey potted. He’s clearly known for having mistresses. Think that’s a pretty obvious open secret for anyone that knew him. And if she did convince him to be more positive towards trade with China there is literally no reason I can think that’s better than just the incentives of a CEO to make more money.

      I just find it funny if China was able to obtain information, or sway opinions, from one of the most important CEOs in the USA; because that CEO was frustrated that America wasn’t allowing him to Capitalism hard enough.

      Like, I hope for the US Capitalist sake that she isn’t a spy. Because it’s just pathetic if she is. The “scary communist state” of China was able to honeypot a CEO and turn him towards pro China trade by literally just appealing to “free market capitalism”. Because that’s literally all we have that is concrete from his actions or words.

      China is winning in the same way it always has. Offering American capitalist the candy that they want; you can’t make this shit up.

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      Also the others are people IN HIS COMPANY that may or may not have gotten jobs BECAUSE of those affairs. Which is a huge no no.

      Less than the spy stuff but enough for the board to be like “your huang will take us all down if it cannot be contained”.

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    It’s not cheating on his wife that did in the CEO, it’s cheating on his wife with an alleged spy while also possibly being involved with chip smuggling.

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      They’re def not ousting him from some morality. He broke embargo with China you’re 100% right.

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        The nono is having it plastered publically. If it’s an open secret within the industry, people in power don’t care because it doesn’t affect their power. It just becomes a lever to pull when you decide to oust someone from power.

        It’s one of those things where it’s always going to happen tolerated to a degree, with enforcement being selective both as a pragmatic necessity and as political leverage. It’s kind of the western equivalent of tax evasion in China where there’s a whole industry that’s allowed to exist for wealthy people, the government knows about it, but they’ll only crack down if it gets too excessive or when someone steps out of line.

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    Normally the CEO doesn’t resign over a mistress, it’s that this one happened to be a spy. Stocks dropped, people lose money, heads gotta roll

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      I don’t understand this part honestly.

      Isn’t anyone he interacts with a spy? As in, every employee, every girlfriend - all highly valuable recruitable assets for foreign powers and business competitors.

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      There is zero evidence that she was a spy. This is cold war era propaganda that we should really have learned to investigate by now. The source of this information is the US state which has provided zero hard evidence. Journalist are simply citing what the state told them. The evidence we do have points towards her being the head of a singaporean shell company used to sell computer parts in China through Alibaba. This is most likely a hit by the US state to take out a CEO who wasn’t doing what they wanted. He was skirting export restrictions and this is state sanctioned libel meant to remove him from a position of power.

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        So she’s not a chinese spy, just head of a chinese shell company to circumvent selling restrictions and sleeping with the CEO.

        What would a spy do in your opinion?

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          Right?! I was laughing reading that.

          Sure shes spyin, but can you really call her a spy? She was simply stealing national security secrets and getting round export controls for a fake Chinese company. Who amongst us has not done such things.

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          So there’s no evidence and we’re presenting theories.

          She was the director of singaporean companies that smuggled NVIDIA AI chips to private Chinese tech companies and AI proxy datatcenters in SE Asia, bragging to investors about securing access to NVIDIA.

          Chinese state policy is to focus on R&D into advanved semi conductors, not to fund corrupt black market smugglers fuelling the AI bubble and not even national security & intelligence, this doesn’t even definitely benefit them, her actions don’t sound like what a spy would do but what a corrupt private businessman and smuggler could.

          Not to mention regardless of whether she is a spy or not, there is no actual evidence and the theory of her being a spy proportional to likelihood has instead suspiciously large amount of support from anonymous US intelligence officials, neocons and right wing outlets because it is a far too convenient of an excuse to justify warmongering and espionage.

          That’s another theory and opinion.

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          A spy would be a government agent who’s purpose is to collect and transmit sensitive information from one nation to another with the goal of undermining the target nations security. She is a smuggler who traffics commodities for money, not a spy.

          Alternatively you could argue that corporate spies exist but this takes the form of infiltrating a rival company to access private information to be utilized by the spying company for their own private benefit at the detriment of the spied upon company. In our case the relationship was a mutually beneficial trafficking operation.

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          A spy would be gathering sensitive intelligence, i.e. spying, not running a smuggling operation… that makes her a smuggler.

          What is the evidence for her conducting espionage?

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              If merely sleeping with a CEO is enough to convince you that someone is a spy, then let me tell you about about my course where I teach you how you can be making $20k a month in passive income in just 6 easy steps!

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        The term “spy” might be a little sensational here, but consider that these export controls are in place for (supposedly) national security reasons but also to limit corporate espionage. So maybe she wasn’t sneaking around in a ninja suit and planting surveillance gadgets, but if she was sleeping with him as part of a scheme to circumvent export controls then espionage may actually be the appropriate term for that AND it makes for sensational headlines.

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        Ooo, I dunno, she is the head of a Singaporean company that sells through Alibaba, open and shut case if you ask me. Definitely a spy, just like the thousands of other execs fitting that description.

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        She looks Chinese at least, ipso facto spy, if you’re a rascist prick at least.