Second user’s name: “Warm beer is a war crime”
Klok fans: “Now listen here you tyfusleijer”
context
Klok is a Dutch beer, where a common meme is “een man van cultuur drinkt zijn Klok op kamertemperatuur,” i.e. a man of culture drinks their Klok at room temperature.
En een echte gladiator drinkt 'm van de radiator
Aren’t they already being topped by their employers?
Only when delivering subs
Lemmy won’t let me reply to your DM. It says you don’t exist. Which is kinda funny, since your name is Owl and Lemmy is being like “Who?” 🤣
Lemmy is mocking me 🙈
I will never tip a delivery driver. But he can fuck my butt i guess
What does top mean?
Hi! Peter here to explain the mene. Since all the other answers are wrong, here’s the actual answer:
Top means the person who penetrates the other (the bottom). The term originates from gay sex, since there it can be very important who is penetrating who. But it can also be applied to other sex (not just homosexual cis men). In the meme above, the implication would be that l Lois uses a strap-on or other kind of dildo to penetrate the delivery driver.
Top often, but not always goes hand-in-hand with domination (dom/sub). Hence the dominatrix-like outfit Lois is putting on.
To dominate sexually.
That is dom. Top means to penetrate the other
As little more than just the tip 😘
On top during gay sex
Not just gay sex, any sex with power exchange. Can also include completely heterosexual mild BDSM.
top means the one who penetrates the other. What you’re describing is a dom
Maybe it’s me being old but it was never outside of gay sex when I was young
For vanilla cis hetero sex it doesn’t apply since the man is always the top and the woman is always the bottom.
„Always“ Seems like your picture of hetero sex is from a hollywood textbook
That’s why I added the word “vanilla”
From what I’ve gathered, it’s entirely possible that some previously exclusively gay terms are now more generally applied.
top 1.9% of only fans
This is a complete aside, but does anyone feel like putting “top 2%” sounds better than “1.9”?
Like when I hear top 2 percent I think wow this person is somewhere between 1.5 and 2% but 1.9 makes me think 1.90 to 1.99.
Maybe it’s just me.
That’s the idea behind significant figures in high school science
1.9 is more precise because it has 2 significant figures
Completely agree, the mystery makes me rank them higher than knowing
The safe word is “banana.”
Happy cake day, banana!
Beer in the US is too cold. That is the crime here.
The colder it is the less you can taste it.
I hate this heteronormative bullshit that topping is the same as domming
I agree except for the heteronormative part. What does the confusion of these terms have to do with heteronormativity?
Wait, can you not be a hetero top or a hetero dom?
I… don’t see how it is heteronormative to use an image that evokes sexual acts… to… imply a sexual interpretation of a typo.
Its… just a way to use a more SFW, recognizable meme.
Like, they could have used … whats her name, Anhka, from that Animal Crossing porn anim that went viral a few years back, very obviously topping someone… but that would have been a lot more explicit.
Lois is also like, in the act of suiting up, with a non plussed, unenthusiastic expression, implying that … there is a job-like aspect to this, yet another dumb charade/performance demanded by society to keep participating in it.
Give her a strap on and it’s fine
Education would be more effective than complaining.
As a straight, isn’t all this is missing for “topping” a strap-on? As in the “top” is usually doing the penetrating?
Its actually somewhat confusing.
Sometimes, to some people… topping just means you are literally, physically on top of them.
Sometimes, it means you are doing the physical penetrating.
Sometimes, top/bottom are the same as dom/sub… to mean authoritative vs submissive…
But you have terms like power bottom, and service top.
A power bottom is physically underneath the partner, but doing almost all the work, and is often also in the authority position.
A service top is physically on top, and/or doing most of the strenuous/penetrative physical work… but they are actually submissive, subervient to the other partner, who is authoritatively directing all their actions.
The vocab for all this is still quite varied and usually only standardizes fully amongst geographically constrained areas, as you would expect with what is basically a set of slang terms.
Synonyms are so hetero
lol wtf
Topping is the act of being the one penetrating their partner, dominating is taking control. They aren’t necessarily the same thing
Then, there’s most of the rest of the world where neither of those words mean anything, heteronormative or otherwise. I guess have heard of topping pot plants, though…
I literally heard about some cheerleader being a top today and it made me chuckle.
It doesn’t bother me one bit if people want to use a word to mean something different to them. It changes nothing in my relationships what they do or say.
What I do hate is your complaining about a group of people based on their sexuality. Seems so bitter.
It’s heteronormative if you equate topping with being dominant.
Dancing is typically heteronormative because there’s a standard (that’s enforced for competitive dancing) that the man leads and the woman follows. And you can absolutely follow this as a same sex couple by assigning femme and butch roles and having the femme follow and the butch lead. But you can also switch it up, even while dancing.
When someone talks about heteronorms it’s not about straight people. Of course toxic masculinity and ditto femininity is sad but the goal is not to reproduce that for queers, not too change what the straights are up to.
It’s not heteronormative oh person with a hammer. You simply lack perspective, as yours seems entirely based on sex and literally none from kink.
Doming and Topping are two different things in the kink world, and imply similar yet drastically different things and are very deliminaited in play.
And even to the comic, it’s BDSM/kink coded more than anything.
“heteronormative” doesn’t mean “it’s the fault of straight people” are you serious
if you don’t know a word, you can just look it up yknow
“heteronormative” doesn’t mean “it’s the fault of straight people” are you serious
But does “heteronormative bullshit” imply that?
What if they’d said “I’m tired of this homosexual bullshit that glitter goes everywhere?”
That definitely reads as “I believe it’s the fault of the queer people” to me, do you believe otherwise?
Heteronormative != heterosexual
I fail to see any issue with the post (like fucking everyone associates topping with dom that doesn’t mean it has to be, and the image works), but it’s decidedly a complaint about social norms rather than a group. Even if I think it’s not a valid complaint because wtf does it have to do with heteronormativity.
I understand heteronormative to be about social norms centered around heterosexuality, and how that is the dominant cultural factor.
With that understanding, viewing things through a heteronormative lens is to exclude or diminish the views of non-heterosexual folks.
Then “heteronormative bullshit” is comparable to “heterosexual bullshit”.
I might’ve missed some nuance - this is not my forte. However my naive understanding is that saying this was commentary on “cultural norms” is similar to saying to civil war was about “states rights”. States rights to do what? (Slavery) Cultural norms centered around what? (Heterosexuality)
I definitely agree with you re: comment being confusing - it seems to largely be a complaint about folks being vanilla and not knowing the nuances of vocabulary describing relationships, which affects folks regardless of sexual orientation.
Hmm, as someone relatively deep into lgbtq issues (though particularly trans issues), I’d say the term itself is perhaps a bit misleading. The way I understand it and see it used is that it’s about heterosexuality and also gender norms within that traditional heterosexual relationship (so some people think that even in a homosexual relationship there’s always “a man” (dominant) and “a woman” (submissive)).
In that sense (to directly relate to the post) a dominant woman in a relationship with a submissive man would actually go against heteronormativity a bit.
On second thought I guess I can see the relation though, in the sense that the traditional “man is dominant in a hetero relationship” combined with the fact that by default most men probably mostly top could make someone see “topping is considered dominant” as reinforcing those traditional relationship norms. Still feels very overreactive by the original commenter but eh.
Thanks for taking the time to walk through your thoughts - I appreciate the conversation.
I think the particularly egregious problem with interpreting the comment as referring to the association of man=top=dom is that the meme has a gal as the dom, as you’ve pointed out, which does go against heteronormativity.
