The U.S. House has voted overwhelmingly to set aside an effort to impeach President Donald Trump over the military strikes in Iran. A lone Democrat, Rep.
Already? I knew it wouldn’t go anywhere but man that’s the shortest attempt yet. I didn’t think it was possible for them to disappoint me with my basement level expectations but they certainly have managed to do so.
Makes no sense to me. You’re the opposition party so if you all vote for it, it’s not going to pass anyway. Just vote for it as a signal to voters that you do care. If you can do that song and dance for the minimum wage, why can’t you do it for this?
I mean, obviously this is due to AIPAC having bought all those candidates, but still.
That’s the problem. They’re not, and they don’t want to be. The Democratic Party leadership runs it as the alternative party to the Republican Party and nothing more. There were plenty of opportunities to platform and support actual progressive candidates, but they instead choose to run the same old kind of moderate “don’t rock the boat”-type candidates and court conservative voters in the hopes of leeching votes away from Republicans.
i was surprised it was only half as most of the dems are owned by aipac. dnc leader schumer works overtime to enable israeli warcrimes than fighting trumps lunacy. there is a reason dnc chose loosing the election over condemning israel in any way when they were bombing hospitals full of infants.
if we are to get back our democracy then every aipac backed democrat needs to be kicked to the bottom of each and every primary.
[“My job is to keep the left pro-Israel” -Chuck Schumer](“My job is to keep the left pro-Israel” -Chuck Schumer)
I already know the vote will fail, and even if it doesn’t the Senate won’t convict. But, Jesus, the Democrats need to do something. Even a symbolic gesture is welcome, and it’s better if it can gum up the works and make Trump’s agenda come to a screeching halt.
Because they shouldn’t be doing only symbolic gestures; they should be doing things that matter. Symbolic gestures are nice in addition to that, but when all they’re doing is one symbolic gesture every few weeks or months while bending over the rest of the time you’ve got a problem.
They’re the most effective way to increase our numbers. Everyone has an opinion on the internet, yet most people still watch protests on their phones. The people who sit out protests at times like this are often the same ones who sit out midterm elections.
I’ve already told my Rep (one of the 128) that I’m supporting her primary opponent (if there is one); should she be the name on the ballot I’m skipping her. She’s part of the Dems that had a chance to do something 2021-2023 and squandered the opportunity, leading to what we have now. Why the hell would I continue to support her?
I agree with you if she has a bad voting record overall. This vote alone is meaningless. The point was to get it on record. An impeachment hearing would do more harm than good, knowing full well we don’t have the votes for removal.
Mike Johnson is a toady giving ol Don a good old deep throated blow. Until (though really, if) the Senate and House flip, there won’t be any attempt with real legs.
Nah. Al Green and Shri Thanedar’s articles were filed and shelved in the same day as well. They’re just doing it to have them on record. It’s a waste of Senate floor time when they would be conducting oversight hearings, challenging provisions in Republican bills, and collecting the information needed for the ACLU to take these cases to the courts.
Despite the constant criticism, people who watch CSPAN are fully aware of how Democrats are using every last second of their floor time to challenge this regime.
Already? I knew it wouldn’t go anywhere but man that’s the shortest attempt yet. I didn’t think it was possible for them to disappoint me with my basement level expectations but they certainly have managed to do so.
The fact that half of the democrats also voted to kill this is depressing.
Makes no sense to me. You’re the opposition party so if you all vote for it, it’s not going to pass anyway. Just vote for it as a signal to voters that you do care. If you can do that song and dance for the minimum wage, why can’t you do it for this?
I mean, obviously this is due to AIPAC having bought all those candidates, but still.
The signal is that they don’t care because that has the greatest personal benefit for them.
That’s the problem. They’re not, and they don’t want to be. The Democratic Party leadership runs it as the alternative party to the Republican Party and nothing more. There were plenty of opportunities to platform and support actual progressive candidates, but they instead choose to run the same old kind of moderate “don’t rock the boat”-type candidates and court conservative voters in the hopes of leeching votes away from Republicans.
i was surprised it was only half as most of the dems are owned by aipac. dnc leader schumer works overtime to enable israeli warcrimes than fighting trumps lunacy. there is a reason dnc chose loosing the election over condemning israel in any way when they were bombing hospitals full of infants. if we are to get back our democracy then every aipac backed democrat needs to be kicked to the bottom of each and every primary.
[“My job is to keep the left pro-Israel” -Chuck Schumer](“My job is to keep the left pro-Israel” -Chuck Schumer)
Did you mean to paste a source link for that quote?
Any blue will do amirite?
I already know the vote will fail, and even if it doesn’t the Senate won’t convict. But, Jesus, the Democrats need to do something. Even a symbolic gesture is welcome, and it’s better if it can gum up the works and make Trump’s agenda come to a screeching halt.
I very much agree but can I just say any time they do a symbolic gesture 90% of Lemmy loses their shit too?
Because they shouldn’t be doing only symbolic gestures; they should be doing things that matter. Symbolic gestures are nice in addition to that, but when all they’re doing is one symbolic gesture every few weeks or months while bending over the rest of the time you’ve got a problem.
These are the third articles of impeachment this term. They’re not going anywhere until after next November.
So you agree the peaceful protests won’t bring about meaningful change in the next year or so at a minimum?
They’re the most effective way to increase our numbers. Everyone has an opinion on the internet, yet most people still watch protests on their phones. The people who sit out protests at times like this are often the same ones who sit out midterm elections.
I’ve already told my Rep (one of the 128) that I’m supporting her primary opponent (if there is one); should she be the name on the ballot I’m skipping her. She’s part of the Dems that had a chance to do something 2021-2023 and squandered the opportunity, leading to what we have now. Why the hell would I continue to support her?
I agree with you if she has a bad voting record overall. This vote alone is meaningless. The point was to get it on record. An impeachment hearing would do more harm than good, knowing full well we don’t have the votes for removal.
Mike Johnson is a toady giving ol Don a good old deep throated blow. Until (though really, if) the Senate and House flip, there won’t be any attempt with real legs.
Nah. Al Green and Shri Thanedar’s articles were filed and shelved in the same day as well. They’re just doing it to have them on record. It’s a waste of Senate floor time when they would be conducting oversight hearings, challenging provisions in Republican bills, and collecting the information needed for the ACLU to take these cases to the courts.
Despite the constant criticism, people who watch CSPAN are fully aware of how Democrats are using every last second of their floor time to challenge this regime.